starter points for monk

[Keebz]

For posterity, that's the OG implementation. Here guilds set the DKP amount players receive per event (or per hour) and then when an item drops players present at the raid bid DKP for items like it's cash. There's been a few notable deviations of this, but generally this is how guilds distribute loot.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, chat GPT says...

Chat GPT got some stuff wrong. <Afterlife> was on my server Mithaniel Marr. I watched these guys in action when they weren’t raiding. Eventually this was merged into Saryrn server and later with another but not Veeshan. Hobben was the guild leader. Thott (bard) was one of the officers and is responsible for a lot of the groundbreaking discoveries and achievements.

I forget when they finally ended up folding but I’m pretty sure it was Gates of Discord. They were premier at least through the end of PoP and might have gotten the first Quarm kill. GoD was problematic for lots of reasons.

[shovelquest]

True, it does say mithral marr forum on that screenshot!

Stupid satanic computer!

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chat GPT got some stuff wrong. <Afterlife> was on my server Mithaniel Marr. I watched these guys in action when they weren’t raiding. Eventually this was merged into Saryrn server and later with another but not Veeshan. Hobben was the guild leader. Thott (bard) was one of the officers and is responsible for a lot of the groundbreaking discoveries and achievements.

I forget when they finally ended up folding but I’m pretty sure it was Gates of Discord. They were premier at least through the end of PoP and might have gotten the first Quarm kill. GoD was problematic for lots of reasons.

Thott did a lot for WoW too. He made thottbot for example which was like the first quest GPS system.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Max dex. You don't cap it with gear.

It is the only tangible way to increase aggro you have when being relied on to tank, and once you're geared you're tanking most things fairly well. Nor do you have the buff slots available to stack dex with fos, nor avatar. 15 slot buff/debuff limits are important to remember when thinking about starting stats.

And JimJam, that is an abomination of a monk magelo. Noone in their right mind would gear a monk that way. Nor is it even max HP for a monk on this server so it's not even named right mate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The increase in proc rate from dex is so completely minimal that it's not worth focusing points into

[putrid_plum]

you could put all your points into cha and in the end it would have such a small impact on your monk at L60 it truly doesn't matter

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The increase in proc rate from dex is so completely minimal that it's not worth focusing points into

Unless you’re a warrior. I’ve worked hard to maintain 170+ unbuffed dex every step along the way. The easier you can get it to 255 with the least amount of buffs the better. 170 base plus VoG (25) + focus (60) gets you there. If you can’t get it to 255, the more the better. No point in playing a tank who can’t reliably spend most of their time being the tank. It is worth making sacrifices for in other areas.

For most classes I whole heartedly agree. For monks with Tstaff, extra dexterity is always welcome but it’s doubtful you’ll find yourself as the tank in situations where it matters very much.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless you’re a warrior. I’ve worked hard to maintain 170+ unbuffed dex every step along the way. The easier you can get it to 255 with the least amount of buffs the better. 170 base plus VoG (25) + focus (60) gets you there. If you can’t get it to 255, the more the better. No point in playing a tank who can’t reliably spend most of their time being the tank. It is worth making sacrifices for in other areas.

For most classes I whole heartedly agree. For monks with Tstaff, extra dexterity is always welcome but it’s doubtful you’ll find yourself as the tank in situations where it matters very much.

I thought they extensively parsed this and proved that you get like less than 1% increased proc rate chance from stacking Dex...or something ridiculously low like that

[Jimjam]

Warriors just that starved of insta aggro that every edge they got to increase getting a proc early feels worth it lol.

[Troxx]

The proc rate at 255 dexterity is 2 procs per minute mainhand - one per minute offhand. Average. Strings of lucky procs and strings of unlucky droughts are gonna happen regardless of your absolute dexterity but rates will always settle towards the average.

Anything below 255 scales downward. To what degree that scales down (linear vs otherwise) I’m not absolutely certain and I don’t want to make up numbers but it is noticeable.