starter points for monk

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chat GPT got some stuff wrong. <Afterlife> was on my server Mithaniel Marr. I watched these guys in action when they weren’t raiding. Eventually this was merged into Saryrn server and later with another but not Veeshan. Hobben was the guild leader. Thott (bard) was one of the officers and is responsible for a lot of the groundbreaking discoveries and achievements.

I forget when they finally ended up folding but I’m pretty sure it was Gates of Discord. They were premier at least through the end of PoP and might have gotten the first Quarm kill. GoD was problematic for lots of reasons.

I played on veeshan and I think afterlife ended up on the luclin server which veeshan also merged into. Could be misremembering that though.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The proc rate at 255 dexterity is 2 procs per minute mainhand - one per minute offhand. Average. Strings of lucky procs and strings of unlucky droughts are gonna happen regardless of your absolute dexterity but rates will always settle towards the average.

Anything below 255 scales downward. To what degree that scales down (linear vs otherwise) I’m not absolutely certain and I don’t want to make up numbers but it is noticeable.

yeah that's what I'm saying I thought they parsed out that it doesn't really scale down significantly so it's not worth wasting starting points on and should be a stat that's focused on only if you're in good shape on the more relevant ones

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah that's what I'm saying I thought they parsed out that it doesn't really scale down significantly so it's not worth wasting starting points on ...

It scales down by at least half ... so 1 proc primary hand vs 0.5 procs offhand. That's quite a lot.

and should be a stat that's focused on only if you're in good shape on the more relevant ones

For warriors I'm not sure you can convince me there is a stat that is more relevant. If you aren't proccing - you aren't holding aggro. If you aren't holding aggro - you aren't tanking.

[Ssouky]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, it was the first I pulled off of wiki.

There is another magelo for what ssouky was apparently wearing ten years ago https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Ssouky

This is a 10/10 split for str sta starting points. This one massively overcaps stamina but fails to cap str too.

This was more of a try... Never got this stuff.
My real magelo is in my Signature. Optimized.

If you're here in the long run, +max dex to proc avatar ASAP. The rest caps.

[Jimjam]

Thanks Ssouky, it is good to hear from you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[DeathsSilkyMist]

All in to STA is the way to go for most people. STR and DEX is always easiest to cap, especially if you ever group/raid and get buffed.

Avatar + Focus of Spirit = 167 STR and 160 DEX just from buffs. Iksars and Human Monks start with at least 75 STR and 75 DEX, so you are already at 242 STR and 235 DEX without gear.

You're only getting 50 STA from buffs via Riotous Health, so you still need quite a bit more STA from gear. Capping out your STA via gear also means you can save a buff slot by not needing Riotous Health.

At full BiS you should be capped on all of your main stats, so it won't matter as much if you are planning on going full BiS. If you are really gunning for full BiS, CHA would be the best stat as you'll never cap it in BiS gear. You'll get better vendor prices and a better chance at getting Divine Intervention to trigger.

[Videri]

I think for the vast majority of players, one can't assume they'll get Avatar weapons. Especially post-Awakening.

One could have the shaman cast Str and Dex and then FOS for a similar effect, I suppose.

[Videri]

As for Cha, I haven't seen anyone cast DI on a monk so far. I can't imagine playing 99.99% of your game time with more charisma, getting very little value from it, just so on that 0.01% of the time you can maybe get saved from dying by a DI.

There's min-maxing and there's "min-maxing."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for Cha, I haven't seen anyone cast DI on a monk so far. I can't imagine playing 99.99% of your game time with more charisma, getting very little value from it, just so on that 0.01% of the time you can maybe get saved from dying by a DI.

There's min-maxing and there's "min-maxing."

I agree, CHA is only if you want to go full BiS and maximize your points, but it's not really necessary. I'd still do 20 STA so I can save a buff slot by not needing Riotous Health.

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One could have the shaman cast Str and Dex and then FOS for a similar effect, I suppose.

Indeed, you'll just be using 1 extra buff slot, which isn't the end of the world. You'll still be at basically 200 STR and DEX without gear in that scenario.