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Old 09-21-2019, 06:42 PM
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If I was a paladin I would salivate over one weapon.

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Old 09-21-2019, 06:44 PM
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I wouldn't worry too much about trying to acquire proc weapons before Yaks. There will be no shortage of casters to root everything you're fighting while leveling on Green. Just use the best ratio weapons you can find.
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:15 PM
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Don't look too closely at that one. It's post-classic and won't exist on "green" until after Velious opens. The one you'll have access to is blackened iron, which is 20/47--still level appropriate for the 20's and into the 30's, but not something you'll really want to push to 50 with. Most Paladins from mid levels onward will salivate over either the Ghoulbane or the Man-o-war prior to endgame weaponry.

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That makes me wonder, was Ghoulbane available as a drop in classic or was it just the quest?

Thanks for all the tips, now I just have to figure out what race. Might go barbarian, but I did love my dwarf paladin before making a gnome one once those hit so maybe dwarf!
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Old 09-21-2019, 10:52 PM
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That makes me wonder, was Ghoulbane available as a drop in classic or was it just the quest?

Thanks for all the tips, now I just have to figure out what race. Might go barbarian, but I did love my dwarf paladin before making a gnome one once those hit so maybe dwarf!
The drop off shin lord is the classic way of getting it. Quest was velious era. I got mine at level 27 when P99 first opened and it took me all the way to 50.

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Old 09-22-2019, 02:50 PM
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This weapon is quite excellent for warriors and should hold you over until you can start finding some solid proc weapons. The ratio makes holding aggro significantly less of a headache since you aren't constantly worried about getting procs. As a bonus, you'll do much more damage, which is good for various reasons.

I speak from a fair bit of personal experience when I say that I've always been a firm believer of ratio over proc for early to mid level warriors.
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Old 09-22-2019, 02:52 PM
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Dex gear and proc weapons.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Gnoll_Hide_Lariat
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Polished_Granite_Tomahawk

Probably the best you can hope for, for a long time.


For a list of early magical weapons in general check out this list.
http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/view...a89a48&start=0
Heh, good luck holding aggro consistently as a warrior with those feeble ratios.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:11 PM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Axe_of_the_Slayers

This weapon is quite excellent for warriors and should hold you over until you can start finding some solid proc weapons. The ratio makes holding aggro significantly less of a headache since you aren't constantly worried about getting procs. As a bonus, you'll do much more damage, which is good for various reasons.

I speak from a fair bit of personal experience when I say that I've always been a firm believer of ratio over proc for early to mid level warriors.
Wouldn't it be beneficial to dual wield then if you could get good ratios and possibly some better stat bonuses?
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:31 PM
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Wouldn't it be beneficial to dual wield then if you could get good ratios and possibly some better stat bonuses?
Well, that really depends on two main factors. The first and arguably most important factor to consider is the dual wield skill level of the warrior in question. At lower levels, dual wield isn't terribly useful because the offhand rarely swings compared to the main hand, leading to weak hate output. The second factor is the ratio of the dual-wielded weapons in question.

A rough back-of-the-envelope way of estimating how much threat you'll generate with a dual wield setup is to calculate the estimated ratio of your offhand weapon after taking into account your dual wield chance, and then add that on top of your main hand ratio.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Me..._Attack_Chance

So, for example, if my offhand weapon has a ratio of 0.5 and my double attack skill is 200 (meaning roughly half of my double attack "checks" would result in a swing), the "real" ratio of my offhand weapon would be roughly 0.25. Add the ratio of your main hand weapon on top of this and you'll get a rough estimate of how much raw hate you'll be generating with a dual wield setup. This is far from an exact science, but it can give you a rough idea of what your performance will look like.

You'll quickly discover that most dual wield setups in the new green server feature weapons with feeble ratios, and most of them won't be able to match or surpass a solid two-hander like the one linked above. Because of this, you'll be heavily reliant on classes that can root if you want to tank.

tl;dr - Ratio > proc and 2H > Dual Wield in most cases, at least until Ykesha starts to become a thing and your dual wield skill actually starts becoming useful around your late 30s / early 40s. Your damage will be substantially higher, your threat will be much smoother, and your groups will appreciate you much more and will be less likely to think "man, I wish I had a SK tanking right now" in the back of their minds.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:10 PM
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Wanna play a really good warrior? Make a mage and let pet be the warrior. Pet will out dps an out-tank nearly all warriors.

Classic EQ hates warriors the most. You got all these sissys complaining about the potential for book screen medding, but warriors have zero advantages in the world of Norrath, like absolutely zero.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:26 PM
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Wanna play a really good warrior? Make a mage and let pet be the warrior. Pet will out dps an out-tank nearly all warriors.

Classic EQ hates warriors the most. You got all these sissys complaining about the potential for book screen medding, but warriors have zero advantages in the world of Norrath, like absolutely zero.
No thanks, if I wanted that I'd play WoW.

I'll be fine with my warrior I'm sure. Something always beats something else and I'm not angling to get server firsts or be the ultimate warrior.
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