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View Poll Results: How do you feel about this new app?
Legal/Fair, but breaks the Spirit of Classic 31 24.41%
Illigal/Unfair and breaks the Spirit of Classic 23 18.11%
Legal/Fair, and OK with Classic 42 33.07%
Illigal/Unfair but OK with Classic 1 0.79%
Don't care either way 30 23.62%
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:56 AM
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:00 AM
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Can we get a Bush/Towers option added please?
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:10 AM
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"Illegal" should not be an option. Legality in this case is objective, not subjective. The app is legal.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:28 AM
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Illegal/Unfair, breaks the spirit of classic. This is a gateway to other things, phone assisted auction tracker, phone based auctions making EC a thing of the past, phone based services (rez, port, clarity, ect). How soon will this app be used for tracking npcs and whatnot?
lol

you forgot about phone assisted merb announcements? and twitter broadcasts?

same shit.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:52 AM
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:37 AM
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Bush did the map hacks.

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And Obama expanded the program!
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"Illegal" should not be an option. Legality in this case is objective, not subjective. The app is legal.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:34 PM
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"Illegal" should not be an option. Legality in this case is objective, not subjective. The app is legal.
It is subjective, cause its a software that circumvents intentionally turned off in-game maps. If turning on in-game maps is illegal on P99, then using a software that does same thing via 3rd party tools can also be classified as illegal.
Log reader by itself is legal, what it does with the data it obtains is subject to interpretations.

By analogy, if guns are illegal, and spoons are legal, if you would have used a spoon to kill a person, a defense on a grounds "spoons are legal hence I am not guilty", would not be found plausible. You possession of a spoon is legal, your usage of it is not.
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It is subjective, cause its a software that circumvents intentionally turned off in-game maps. If turning on in-game maps is illegal on P99, then using a software that does same thing via 3rd party tools can also be classified as illegal.
Log reader by itself is legal, what it does with the data it obtains is subject to interpretations.

By analogy, if guns are illegal, and spoons are legal, if you would have used a spoon to kill a person, a defense on a grounds "spoons are legal hence I am not guilty", would not be found plausible. You possession of a spoon is legal, your usage of it is not.
Proven wrong.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:41 PM
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Proven wrong.
by whom? prove it?
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