Velious Variance Discussion: - Page 12

Nirgon · #**111** 07-12-2013, 06:32 PM

@pasi I am making sure a difference is known in the argument

pasi · #**112** 07-12-2013, 07:05 PM

I'm digging through the SK-forums atm. Unfortunately, the old shadowknight.org can't be accessed through the wayback. However, there's still a ton of confirmation of this. As for the guk example - I don't know, I didn't have access to instant IVU until Cazic Thule Revamp. VP was one zone where we relied on invis-pulling due to the incredibly quick respawn.

Here's something though:

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There's also something I've discovered as a ranger years ago. I don't know if it still works this way or not, as I've not used a bow in my entire shadowknight career thus far... but once I had innate camo, one can pull social mobs single from a group of socials by squeezing off an arrow, and immediately going invisible before the arrow hit. Then when the arrow crunched into the mob, it was as though none of the others had ever seen where it came from. The mob would come by itself.

We used to refer to this as rule #1 on the SK forums - you didn't directly talk about it - but some people still did.

Joroz · #**113** 07-12-2013, 07:19 PM

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That trick was FD, stand + instant Circlet of Shadow - any see invis mobs would come toward you and mobs that didn't would path back. IF invis broke, the non-see invis mobs would re-aggro.

This is correct. If you pulled a mob and went invisible the aggro mobs would still transfer social aggro to nearby mobs while your invisible but those socially aggroed mobs would not start the chase until you became visible. The part where that aggro transfer happens when mobs don't see you doesn't appear to be implemented here, effectively making you invisible while you drag a mob around the zone.

Alarti0001 · #**114** 07-12-2013, 07:39 PM

So who is against getting rid of Variance?

Rhambuk · #**115** 07-13-2013, 03:57 AM

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So who is against getting rid of Variance?

I don't know why anyone would be in favor of variance.

Variance put in place to remove poopsock and give smaller guilds a chance at raids because who is going to sit around for 48 hours, I thought...

what happens? Guilds track for 48 hours straight...

it just makes it harder for them, doesnt really do any good except forcing those guilds to be ready at a moment notice leaving the nonraid world more open for people. no fungi/royals/drusella/etc being perma camped by tmo in between raid spawns. but whatev

**Aeolwind** · #**116** 07-14-2013, 10:33 AM

TL; DR

Kland, Zland, Sont, Yeli, Statue, Tormax, Vindi, Wuoshi, Kelorek, Velketor, Lodizal, West TOV, Dozekar, North TOV all of that had built in variance to some degree. Yeli/Max I'm not sure of, but went with it anyway. The talisman dragons had a +/- Range that was F'd up. Dozekar was 3 days +/- 18 hours. Other stuff like Garzicor you could do as fast as you wanted to though, so he should be left out of the equation. ST even had variance.

Alarti0001 · #**117** 07-14-2013, 11:02 AM

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TL; DR

Kland, Zland, Sont, Yeli, Statue, Tormax, Vindi, Wuoshi, Kelorek, Velketor, Lodizal, West TOV, Dozekar, North TOV all of that had built in variance to some degree. Yeli/Max I'm not sure of, but went with it anyway. The talisman dragons had a +/- Range that was F'd up. Dozekar was 3 days +/- 18 hours. Other stuff like Garzicor you could do as fast as you wanted to though, so he should be left out of the equation. ST even had variance.

to a degree........

uygi · #**118** 07-14-2013, 11:30 AM

Everything should either be properly classic or random chance 24/7 with a mean spawn rate of 4.3/month for 7-days and 10/month for 3-days if necessary to prevent poopsocking. I could never figure out why widows/variances were the solution.

webrunner5 · #**119** 07-14-2013, 04:33 PM

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So who is against getting rid of Variance?

I love Variances. Makes the game exciting. Come on if it was a known time you could have a bowl of cornflakes, take a crap, play with the old ladies ass etc. , watch Oprah for a bit, than go raid. How the hell boring is that.

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