the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they should do is make it illegal for anyone with any history of mental illness to buy a gun

it's already illegal for anyone who's been 302'd and some places even 201'd

what that would do is make psychiatrists the arbiters of gun ownership and that doesn't jive with the 2nd

the answer is expanding mental healthcare, but unfortunately that field is rough on the workers and nobody wants to do it.

i got mad respect for anyone working mental health fields, they really are Unsungheros

not only do they have to do a job that doesn't have a clear definition, they are expected to take a broken machine that no one fully understands and make it function to some degree of satisfaction, all while their are handcuffed and hog tied by laws about what they can and can't do or say in treatment.

and on top of that, and the rest of the bullshit they deal with, these mental healthcare workers have to deal with knowing all of the horror stories they are told by abused people and the rest of the psychos out there.

every girl who ever meant anything to me told me a horror story of sexual abuse or rape.

I'd end up making lists of names and crossing off those names on the list

I once did a week in jail because I used a guys head to make a hole in drywall

I told the judge exactly why I did it (he raped my friend, which she corroborated) and the judge only gave me a week and a misdemeanor charge.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do I get grandfathered in if I already have guns and a history of mental illness?

legally speaking yes unless the state decides you need to be disarmed for public safety

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do I get grandfathered in if I already have guns and a history of mental illness?

Lol I dunno how it would work

But I know that it would be the end of most people getting voluntary treatment for mental illness

But hey, you could still take away the rights of the ones who get involuntary treatment. But that’s already in place in some states like mine. When I was at court for the suicidal girl who last year layed her arm open so bad she cut the tendons and was currently planning to kill herself the day I saw her, she lost her gun rights at court today. She asked the judge “so I can’t even go to a shooting range?” And he said “no, that’s a class 6 felony to do so”

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's already illegal for anyone who's been 302'd and some places even 201'd

what that would do is make psychiatrists the arbiters of gun ownership and that doesn't jive with the 2nd

the answer is expanding mental healthcare, but unfortunately that field is rough on the workers and nobody wants to do it.

i got mad respect for anyone working mental health fields, they really are Unsungheros

not only do they have to do a job that doesn't have a clear definition, they are expected to take a broken machine that no one fully understands and make it function to some degree of satisfaction, all while their are handcuffed and hog tied by laws about what they can and can't do or say in treatment.

and on top of that, and the rest of the bullshit they deal with, these mental healthcare workers have to deal with knowing all of the horror stories they are told by abused people and the rest of the psychos out there.

every girl who ever meant anything to me told me a horror story of sexual abuse or rape.

I'd end up making lists of names and crossing off those names on the list

I once did a week in jail because I used a guys head to make a hole in drywall

I told the judge exactly why I did it (he raped my friend, which she corroborated) and the judge only gave me a week and a misdemeanor charge.

Damn you lucked out with a sympathetic judge

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn you lucked out with a sympathetic judge

it was the same judge who sentenced the guy for the rape. he got 2 years. I heard it was bad for him. I don't think he suffered enough.

I want all rapists and pedophiles to die badly, and slowly.

They cannot be rehabilitated or fixed, and before they are departed, they must understand the depths of horror and pain they visited upon the innocent. They must take that into their next life.

[unsunghero]

The sad thing about that chick is all the she had to do was lie to me. I’m not sure if her telling me the truth was some sort of survival instinct that knew I was clinically obligated to stop her or why she did

But for whatever reason she told me the truth, and she lost her gun rights. All she had to do to finish the job of killing herself or mass murdering was just lie to me. That’s how easy it is to beat the mental health system sometimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sad thing about that chick is all the she had to do was lie to me. I’m not sure if her telling me the truth was some sort of survival instinct that knew I was clinically obligated to stop her or why she did

But for whatever reason she told me the truth, and she lost her gun rights. All she had to do to finish the job of killing herself or mass murdering was just lie to me. That’s how easy it is to beat the mental health system sometimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both of you did the right thing.

I've been through the system many times, one of the major things i learned is that the social workers are legally kneecapped, bound and gagged, and then told to go help people.

So I've gotten some info thru channels, and gone out into the streets to try and meet the suffering where they are. There is a doctor who agreed to function as the Jim Gordon to my Batman. He knows how his hands are tied, I started talking about how the people in crisis need to be met where they are, because the hospital is only triage, they keep you for a week and send you on your way, and then given a therapist appt 4 months out.

Then he said, "so you wanna do a Batman thing?" he "tells" me where in the city that I might find folks struggling.

I have sat in the lobby of a non-profit mental help center where people in crisis can walk in, and I talk to them before they get to the "medical help" before any legal documents are signed. I've walked the streets in ghettos to try to wake up and talk to the passed out junkies, I've sat with single mothers who just needed to unload stress, I've talked to people who couldn't remember 5 minutes ago.

as the old adage goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. If a person has cancer, you can cure that against their will if you really tried. If a person has a mental problem, not a god damn thing you do will have any effect if that person is not willing to accept treatment.

We are trying to treat mental illness the same way as any bodily disease. Analyze symptoms in a clinical setting and then select a course of treatment from a pre-approved list of treatments.

This is totally the wrong approach. People aren't the same as they are in the hospital as they are out in the wilderness. When you bring them into the hospital, all sorts of things change, they respond differently I guess due to the nature of the comfortable and safe environment, which is necessary, but they deserve to have safety and comfort out on the streets to begin with.

I believe we have to meet the troubled where they are, instead of bringing the patient to the crisis center, we bring the crisis center to the patient.

Comedian Michael Che has a bit that goes like, "If your life sucks, and you're sad about it, that is NOT depression, it is not a mental illness, it is a natural reaction to adverse circumstances" he's right, if you touch the hot burner on the stove, your body gives you an indication to stop doing that. Depression is not more than the brain telling the other parts of the brain, "Hey guys I think we need to be doing different things"

I need about 100 million per year and I WILL solve the mental health crisis, or at the minimum drastically reduce it.

[AxeGrinder]

With that, peace out shitposters.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by AxeGrinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With that, peace out shitposters.

Im not shit posting, im venting.

there are solutions in this world, these solutions will require the selfless efforts of good hearted people.

I need help. real life isn't a super hero story, I can't do it alone and neither can the entire mental health industry.

You wanna stop all the shit and misery in the world? This is where it starts.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Diziet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't worry, the conservative morons in Congress have got you all covered.

Republican congressman on school shootings: “It’s a horrible, horrible situation, and we’re not going to fix it.”

The Guardian ..

lol