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Old 12-14-2020, 10:50 PM
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Default Iksar is the GOAT tank

+8 regen more standing over other races(Besides troll)
+35 additional AC (raises your softcap)
+can still hit 255 str/sta/dex in velious gear
-needs to apply lotion often

I mean 12 standing regen with a softcap boosting additional free 35 AC, come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
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Old 12-14-2020, 10:51 PM
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come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
hard to level with 20% exp penalty, hated everywhere, hard to gear out until velious
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Old 12-15-2020, 12:30 AM
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I mean 12 standing regen with a softcap boosting additional free 35 AC, come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
That 2hs animation
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:58 AM
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There are a few reasons:

1. For solo minded warriors, Iksars can't use quite a few useful warrior clickies. Warriors need clickies/proc weapons to make up for their lack of spellcasting. Honestly Gnome warriors have the best solo edge with their race specific, cheap, rechargable 40% Haste Buff clickie.

2. For raid minded warriors, none of that is going to matter. Avatar of War, for example, has a minimum damage of 900 or so, regardless of your AC. Half of the time you wont even be regenerating, as you will hit 100% HP quite often from all of the Complete Heals you will be getting.

3. Like Tunabros said, limited ability to gear until Velious. This turns a lot of people off, especially people who haven't played a warrior and just want to try it out. It is a hassle to faction up and line up multiquests for Velious armor. It is way easier to just gear up in EC, play the warrior for a bit, get bored, and liquidate it.

4. Faction problems, as Tunabros mentions. Iksars are great as Monks/Necromancers because both of those classes have built in ways to sell to merchants regardless of faction. Warriors need clickies to modify their faction quickly. Most people can't afford something like AoN, and the cheaper options tend to be more limited, either in faction adjustment or in number of uses.

5. If you want to Min/Max, go Ogre for Frontal Stun Immunity. This maximizes you agro generation by preventing gaps in weapon swings caused by stuns. They can also use all the nice plate that Iksars can't use, and have way better starting stats.
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Old 12-15-2020, 01:59 AM
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Old 12-15-2020, 02:03 AM
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Old 12-15-2020, 03:16 PM
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Iksar wars are dumb unless you just love the look of them.

No invis/shrink clicky sucks, terrible combat animations. Regen isn’t a big deal, bandaging/blood points takes care of that. The ac difference is unnoticeable when it matters. Can’t hide, can’t sneak, hated everywhere. Just giving up so much for getting so little.
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Old 12-15-2020, 04:28 PM
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The tank master-race debate happens constantly and we always come to the same conclusion: It doesn't matter.

Well, we don't all come to that conclusion but it's the right one. 35 AC and 8hp regen are nice when farming greens but won't make a gamechanging difference to anything hitting for a notable amount of damage. Not anything for a CH chain at least.
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Old 12-15-2020, 04:37 PM
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+can still hit 255 str/sta/dex in velious gear
Have people who bring up this point in every race thread ever taken a look at the kind of gear required to actually accomplish this? Because you basically need 100% BiS in every slot, which means like two straight years of raiding ToV uncontested. And even then, there's a lot of value in capping stats without buffs since you can only have 15 buffs at a time, so the advantage of fatty races never really goes away.
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Old 12-15-2020, 05:04 PM
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+8 regen more standing over other races(Besides troll)
+35 additional AC (raises your softcap)
+can still hit 255 str/sta/dex in velious gear
-needs to apply lotion often

I mean 12 standing regen with a softcap boosting additional free 35 AC, come on folks why are there not more lizard warriors?!
The real question is why is this thread in the melee section instead of the tank section? Reading comprehension ftw.
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