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Old 07-28-2022, 01:43 AM
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What are the climate provisions?
I have no idea I just think it's superfunny McConnell got outplayed for once.

If you want to complain about it, supposedly EV credits are in.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:47 AM
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Supposedly revenue neutral. Medicare can negotiate drug prices

Seems like not a terrible bill for progressives? I’m not sure what the reflexive anger is without details being out yet. I don’t see much about climate except bold promises
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:48 AM
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Would taking a harder stance on corruption make you understand how critical it is that we can’t build chips?
idk watch a documentary to see how these bailouts pan out in terms of changing any of our foreign dependence.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:50 AM
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Our government sucks no doubt, but the status quo of we can’t build shit is also very bad

/shrug, this is a tough problem without an easy solution.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:55 AM
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this is a tough problem without an easy solution.
Its one that started in our lifetime though and its one I've been railing against ever since I watched my home town go from a working class family oriented town with a drinking problem to a wasteland of meth and violence.

I dont know the best solution, bailouts I'm against, I'd prefer some type of law that made it so you had to manufacture at home, and if America wanted to not be competitive then that's on them. But a national free market I think in the USA would rise to the top. We can export, just cant do labor oversees and import only enough high quality foreign shit to make our companies compete globally.

China is only competitive, because they stole our IP while we used their cheep labor. And had we not let buisnesses leave in the first place none of this would be a problem and we would be a million miles ahead of our enemies.

But we cant change that.

What we can do is hang everyone who did that though.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:58 AM
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Its one that started in our lifetime though and its one I've been railing against ever since I watched my home town go from a working class family oriented town with a drinking problem to a wasteland of meth and violence.

I dont know the best solution, bailouts I'm against, I'd prefer some type of law that made it so you had to manufacture at home, and if America wanted to not be competitive then that's on them. But a national free market I think in the USA would rise to the top. We can export, just cant do labor overseer's and import only enough high quality foreign shit to make our companies compete globally.

China is only competitive, because they stole our IP while we used their cheep labor. And had we not let buisnesses leave in the first place none of this would be a problem and we would be a million miles ahead of our enemies.

But we cant change that.

What we can do is hang everyone who did that though.
Just think of it as nationalizing the domestic computer chip industry and put a smile on.

It's not but you can do that, if you want to. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-28-2022, 02:08 AM
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Yeah I love america and want it to be like disneyland why not. Nationalize everything basically. With a free market inside the park.

work on the line should be like a 1980s movie. We dont need to be so disposable. if we were on iphone 3 still we'd be fine.
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Old 07-28-2022, 07:20 AM
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https://open.spotify.com/track/5YxWV...TBqqD2NN6oIbeA

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Old 07-28-2022, 08:20 AM
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Seems like not a terrible bill for progressives?
Reiwa is just constantly irritated that progressives insist on existing
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Old 07-28-2022, 10:08 AM
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Seek Christ

In a very unironic way, hope that helps.
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