so let me get this straight...Canni II>Canni III?

spoils · #1 11-19-2013, 04:32 PM

wut do?

why would they do this?

Freakish · #2 11-19-2013, 04:39 PM

The level 56 undead cleric nuke is less efficient than the lvl 44 one too.

Vicatin · #3 11-19-2013, 09:48 PM

Cani 3 actually gives 46 mana for 100 health. Just tested. Wiki wrong, cani 3 ftw.

Estu · #4 11-20-2013, 09:29 AM

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Cani 3 actually gives 46 mana for 100 health. Just tested. Wiki wrong, cani 3 ftw.

Please update the wiki instead of just saying 'wiki wrong'. Not hard~

Ele · #5 11-20-2013, 12:57 PM

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The level 56 undead cleric nuke is less efficient than the lvl 44 one too.

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Exile is better immediately at 55 and only gets better on the way to 60.

Banish (44) is 585 dd for 225 mana = 2.6 damage/mana ratio
Exile (55) is 675 (@55) for 250 mana = 2.7 damage/mana ratio
Exile (55) is 725 (@60) for 250 mana = 2.9 damage/mana ratio

Freakish · #6 11-20-2013, 07:04 PM

Hmm, for some reason I thought Exile was 300 mana. I just logged in and verified those mana costs are correct though, both on wiki and in-game.

skipdog · #7 11-21-2013, 05:32 PM

Since nobody is saying anything I guess I'll be the one...

46 mana for 100 health is not better than 36 mana for 67 health(Canni3 vs. Canni2).

Canni2 > Canni3 in terms of 'which spell gives me the most mana for each HP expended'

Exmo · #8 11-21-2013, 07:09 PM

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Since nobody is saying anything I guess I'll be the one...

46 mana for 100 health is not better than 36 mana for 67 health(Canni3 vs. Canni2).

Canni2 > Canni3 in terms of 'which spell gives me the most mana for each HP expended'

Right, but which spell gets my mana pool full faster so I can torpor is really the question.

It's about mana per Cast, not mana per HP, since at 60 (with money) regen is a non-issue.

skipdog · #9 11-21-2013, 07:15 PM

Yeah absolutely, once you have torpor it makes sense to ignore efficiency.

Furniture · #10 11-21-2013, 07:49 PM

Canni 3 is less tedious to use constantly and works great with a fungi or torpor but i can see the concern without it. Even if i had no fungi id still use canni 3 , cannibalizing to me is the most tedious and annoying parts of playing shaman, but obviously is great nonetheless