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Old 07-21-2023, 01:53 PM
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Actually in most cases it isn't even to avoid a faction hit. It's pretty common for enchanters in chardok to Dictate a PH mob and suicide it into other mobs and gate out before the agroed mobs get to them. It's definitely the fastest and least hassle way knock out a PH as opposed to making a pet and buffs, debuffs etc.

Does leaving the zone drop a camp by rules? Sure. Is it kind of ridiculous to try to snipe a camp that way? Yes. They are killing the mob and holding the camp. This isn't even something I do but feel like it's reasonable for others to do as long as they don't train someone. If you really have an issue with this is all you would really be doing is forcing someone to kill less efficiently.

Chardok has a code of conduct that a ton of the players who are regularly there follow and if you just talk people are generally chill and fair.
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Old 07-21-2023, 02:11 PM
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If you really have an issue with this is all you would really be doing is forcing someone to kill less efficiently.
You misspelled "holding someone accountable to the rules of the server".

The rules don't bend or warp around a specific class because of how they choose to use their spells, skills, and abilities. The rules are the rules and every class/player needs to work within those confines.
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Old 07-21-2023, 04:02 PM
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You misspelled "holding someone accountable to the rules of the server".

The rules don't bend or warp around a specific class because of how they choose to use their spells, skills, and abilities. The rules are the rules and every class/player needs to work within those confines.
One of the rules is play nice. Even if it wasn't I wouldn't hound someone over this situation. I've seen plenty of situations where someone went LD on a camp I was waiting for and they got back in a reasonable amount of time so I didn't try to rule lawyer them out of it.

Also, it's been clearly stated by the staff that you don't have to sit at a camp if you keep the mob down to hold that camp. Now, this generally (if not somewhere explicitly stated) is agreed to mean staying in the zone but the intent of the rule is still held up.
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Old 07-21-2023, 04:05 PM
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Either rules matter or they don't. When you start making exceptions for this thing, then another exception for that thing, then another... etc etc etc, there's no reason to have the rules.
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Old 07-21-2023, 04:59 PM
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They are killing the mob and holding the camp. This isn't even something I do but feel like it's reasonable for others to do as long as they don't train someone. If you really have an issue with this is all you would really be doing is forcing someone to kill less efficiently.
I don't have a dog in this fight (haven't been to Chardok yet), but if the only way someone can hold down a camp is by charming the PH, suiciding it against a mob, then gating before that mob comes after them, I don't think that's really holding down the camp.

I'm not the sort of person who would snipe a camp, just not really interested in causing conflict in game, but I think the rules are pretty clear that if you zone, you cede the camp. If you can't hold the camp without zoning, you can't hold the camp.
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Old 07-21-2023, 06:48 PM
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If your strategy involves leaving the zone and losing the camp, it's probably a bad way to hold the camp.
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Old 07-21-2023, 07:19 PM
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Maybe enchanters should get gud then and farm some skins/salts instead of leaving the zone to avoid faction hits. We shouldn't make carve outs in the rules because enchanters are lazy.
If someone goes LD they give up their camp now?
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Old 07-21-2023, 07:19 PM
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You sound new, consider reading the rules here
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Old 07-21-2023, 08:28 PM
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Enchanters LD names, or suicide PH in chardok to avoid faction hits. You have to be a real scumbag to steal someone's camp after you watched them do this.

Can we get a ruling by the kittens on this?
nah theyre bitches for doing it

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Old 07-22-2023, 03:21 AM
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This isn’t even a grey area. The rules are clear, if you leave zone or even LD then the camp is forfeit.

Now question is if you want to lawyer someone out of a camp they’re clearly working, that’s up to you but you’re clearly within your rights to do so.

Chanters ITT just mad because their broken one-man show class isn’t perfect and now want elf-legal protection to monopolize the game.
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