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[DinoTriz2]

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[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they hate us for our freedoms

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“Freedom” doesn’t mean irresponsibility or an absence of civic purpose. The word you’re looking for is apathy
hth!

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no it does. read the constitution. nothing about diabetes in there bud.

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can even be a faithless elector and the constitution is silent on that. what a country!

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Protestant culture didn’t need to codify such a situation. They had a culture of critical thinking, education, discipline, and civics

I'd just swap out "Protestant culture" for "balanced society suffering limited delusion with pathological thought restrained by natural adversity." I think we can all agree then that exhaustive enummmeration of rights and wrongs wouldn't be necessary in those circumstances. Otherwise this exchange was a good line of reasoning 👍😊

[DinoTriz2]

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[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I don't think this is true aside from the movement to divest consequence from action. we can only be free insofar as we are accountable. society has a deeply vested interest in the people's capacity to behave non-destructively.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think this is true aside from the movement to divest consequence from action. we can only be free insofar as we are accountable. society has a deeply vested interest in the people's capacity to behave non-destructively.

So you want a spanking from Uncle Sam, is that it?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want a spanking from Uncle Sam, is that it?

no, not really, but if he's going to feed, clothe and care for us, then i think it is necessary. ordinarily bad decisions would enjoy enough negative reinforcement on their own that they'd struggle to proliferate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] we all need spankings from time to time. some more than others, perhaps :3

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, not really, but if he's going to feed, clothe and care for us, then i think it is necessary. ordinarily bad decisions would enjoy enough negative reinforcement on their own that they'd struggle to proliferate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] we all need spankings from time to time. some more than others, perhaps :3

If I may amend - you want to not want a spanking from Uncle Sam. this is your utopia, free from "degeneracy". [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tyranny

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I may amend - you want to not want a spanking from Uncle Sam. this is your utopia, free from "degeneracy."

tyranny

reality is tyrranical, it's only a matter of what rules us: nature, our conscience, social contracts.

also, I don't think degeneracy is a very good word because it connotes some sort of moral piety on behalf of the accuser and bears a strong religious association. there are all sorts of bad behaviors that qualify as destructive and wouldn't be considered "degenerate," while there are all sorts of behaviors that would generally be considered degenerate, while not necessarily being destructive.

[DinoTriz2]

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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reality is tyrranical, it's only a matter of what rules us: nature, our conscience, social contracts.

also, I don't think degeneracy is a very good word because it connotes some sort of moral piety on behalf of the accuser and bears a strong religious association. there are all sorts of bad behaviors that qualify as destructive and wouldn't be considered "degenerate," while there are all sorts of behaviors that would generally be considered degenerate, while not necessarily being destructive.

every american deserves to live free from fear of the irascible hand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]