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Old 09-03-2020, 10:31 AM
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Communism is for maximizing the profitability of the WORKING class, while minimizing the liability that stems from having to pay them for said work. The prize and reward of a successful communist coup is replacing the profit that is intercepted by the bourgeoisie and centralizing it in the hands of the political rulung class.
How is this not happening right now in the US? Politicians are constantly enriching themselves up while ordinary people had to wait for paltry handouts during covid no? Then, when their profits were drying up the politicians and the CEOs wanted ordinary people to get back to work and school, while there's a pandemic. Like you can keep calling these "leftists" in these threads all the names you want, but if you don't even understand how fucked the average person in the US is, you're worthy of pity.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:36 AM
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Cuomo is very close to 'Threatening the President of the United States' charges
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:10 AM
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Communism is for maximizing the profitability of the WORKING class, while minimizing the liability that stems from having to pay them for said work. The prize and reward of a successful communist coup is redirecting the profit that is intercepted by the bourgeoisie and centralizing it in the hands of the political rulung class.
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How is this not happening right now in the US? Politicians are constantly enriching themselves up while ordinary people had to wait for paltry handouts during covid no? Then, when their profits were drying up the politicians and the CEOs wanted ordinary people to get back to work and school, while there's a pandemic. Like you can keep calling these "leftists" in these threads all the names you want, but if you don't even understand how fucked the average person in the US is, you're worthy of pity.
I guess all the poor immigrants who came here and became rich had a magic genie or something. Just because politicians are almost entirely slimeballs doesn't mean the average person is fucked. I know the commie stuff is enticing but it's complete bullshit and is just exploiting envy. It's incredibly ugly in practice.
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How is this not happening right now in the US? Politicians are constantly enriching themselves up while ordinary people had to wait for paltry handouts during covid no? Then, when their profits were drying up the politicians and the CEOs wanted ordinary people to get back to work and school, while there's a pandemic. Like you can keep calling these "leftists" in these threads all the names you want, but if you don't even understand how fucked the average person in the US is, you're worthy of pity.

How is this happening? is a very good question, indeed.

I would venture to say its happening already because this is what the dipshits are pushing for and.....they're getting more of what they're are implicitly asking for.

Why do you think these megacorps and the regional/state governments "support" BLM in unison.

They're literally being empowered, emboldened, and encouraged by the idiots on the left to do it. It's what leftist naively wants.
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:41 AM
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How is this not happening right now in the US? Politicians are constantly enriching themselves up while ordinary people had to wait for paltry handouts during covid no? Then, when their profits were drying up the politicians and the CEOs wanted ordinary people to get back to work and school, while there's a pandemic. Like you can keep calling these "leftists" in these threads all the names you want, but if you don't even understand how fucked the average person in the US is, you're worthy of pity.
We already live in a Marxist society. You just haven't realized it yet. The problem with capitalism is that it only works when everyone agrees to play by the rules . . . and this creates a huge asymmetric payoff for those who do not. All you have to do is bribe a few politicians to give you the ability to print trillions of dollars of "stimulus" and then you don't have to do all of that annoying 'work' to obtain things. Left and right are terrible terms because both political parties today are Marxist, as politics is simply theater. You see, the asymmetric payoff depends on you playing by the rules even as they don't. So you have to believe that all that is necessary for change is voting for some random politician.

In related news, there is no pandemic. The CDC finally released their figures that only 6,000 Americans have died of COVID without any comorbidities. COVID is at most about as dangerous as the flu. So why did our government and media react as they did? Because you are most easy to control when you are afraid.

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The soup thing is real though. Mr Donald is right.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:13 PM
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marxism is an explanation for why capitalism keeps collapsing from its internal contradictions. there's no such thing as a marxist society. that would be silly. but of course everyone is marxist today. you'd have to be a rube not to be. the contradictions in the empire are heightened to a degree so self-evident that people independently reinvent marxism every day without even realizing it.

the reason everyone is marxist is, well, its true. we capitalists know it. the intelligentsia class knows it. the information class knows it. what exactly do you think "targeted advertising" is, if not class analysis? the capture by the bourgeoisie and subsequent collapse into either socialism or fascism of liberal political structures was well described by marx before even the marginal revolution.

it is an explanation for what's happened. and a playbook for what's coming. and it really boils down to that question we've been asking since Jesus Christ: socialism, or barbarism?
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marxism is an explanation for why capitalism keeps collapsing from its internal contradictions. there's no such thing as a marxist society. that would be silly. but of course everyone is marxist today. you'd have to be a rube not to be. the contradictions in the empire are heightened to a degree so self-evident that people independently reinvent marxism every day without even realizing it.

the reason everyone is marxist is, well, its true. we capitalists know it. the intelligentsia class knows it. the information class knows it. what exactly do you think "targeted advertising" is, if not class analysis? the capture by the bourgeoisie and subsequent collapse into either socialism or fascism of liberal political structures was well described by marx before even the marginal revolution.

it is an explanation for what's happened. and a playbook for what's coming. and it really boils down to that question we've been asking since Jesus Christ: socialism, or barbarism?
It may be just me, and I mean this with all due respect, but I can’t follow your writing. I’ve attempted on several occasions to read through your posts, but something about how you formulate sentences leaves me scratching my head.
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