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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 01-06-2021 at 04:15 PM..
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Its borderline nuts how you'll argue every little thing down to the most insignificant detail. Its 2021. No one cares. I'm sorry you're hurt that I was able to summarize your painfully long-winded essay and endless nit-picky responses into 3 lines and 13 words. | |||
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Nobody cares about your opinion on what is significant to you. People want the objectice facts, so they can make up their own mind on what is significant to their playstyle.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 01-07-2021 at 10:26 AM..
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For instance I happen to feel that FSI is overall useless on raids in normal situations. We’re it that useful, people would be making a lot more ogres for raid purposes. Shamans aren’t getting focused down left and right trying to slow stuff, it’s rarely useful. And you even admitted iksars were the best raiding shaman. I actually wonder if you flipped that one to useful after thinking oh shit iksars won in my tally system. With that one change of opinion in that scenario, that actually gives iksars the most points. So by your tally logic they are the best shaman now. Please stop spreading your opinions as facts. Nobody needs to provide this new and improved secret counter evidence against ogres. One just simply needs to look at your guide and tally up the scenarios themselves and decide which works best for them. A good scenario calculator your guide is, objective truth it is not. | |||
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If you think FSI is useless in raids, you are factually incorrect. It is useful, but I never claimed it was game breaking or necessary. Yes, i did say Iksars are the best raiding Shaman. But you fail to grasp the basic idea that most people do not build Shamans to exclusively raid. If they did, my guide would read differently[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Best race simply means the race that works best for most people. I specifically mention the best races for other scenarios so other people get those facts too. EDIT: To your point on my tally system, you are 100% correct that it is flawed right now. I havent figured out the best way to rank a tally point. Right now, all tallies are equal, but that is not correct. Iksars only win the tally because they get more stuff than other races. But getting more stuff does not mean they are better overall.
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Do you have questions about Shaman races? Read my guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Shamwow...man_Race_Guide Want to see Shaman videos? Check out my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFU...zEFJVBIH3-jUog | |||
Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 01-07-2021 at 11:21 AM..
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Lol. Absolutely pathetic. Actually taking time to write and argue about the guide being too long, bad, etc. It just shows how many people are so unhappy with their sad pathetic lives that they need to take their anger and frustration out on other people trying to help. How about you take a look at the guide he wrote and if you think it's shit or something else that's in your constant negative filled mind, stop reading it and move on.
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Last edited by Bondrake; 01-07-2021 at 11:38 AM..
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It’s also funny that the iksar tally was equal to the ogre tally in your guide but you gave ogres the edge due to having a jbb over iksar regen/ac/fear necklace. You could ask a thousand people whether or not they’d take jbb over these iksar benefits, you’d get different results. Jbb has some uses at 60 but it’s mostly a 46-52 fun clicky item. And I wouldn’t be surprised If there’s math to support the uselessness of jbb over your regular shaman spell set at 60 for faster kills, but there’s no need to get into that. Again, you provided a great “racial scenario calculator”, well done! Edit: thank you for admitting your tally system is flawed! I look forward to seeing the revisions! | |||
Last edited by Crede; 01-07-2021 at 11:41 AM..
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It seems to me you havent played a Shaman, if you think JBB is only a leveling toy. It is still quite useful at 60. The resoning is very simple: You cannot buy or generate spell slots. JBB gives you one of your best Direct Damage spells for free, without a spell gem. This is WAY more valuable than a bit of damage mitigation, because Shamans already have one of the best damage mitigation systems in the game with Torpor and a 75% slow. See my Cliff Golems video for an example on how you can use JBB to do damage to a mob, while not staying on the top of their hate list. This allows your pet to tank summoning mobs, saving you WAY more HP than an Iksar would: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umuVBewCNgY Also, I am not spinning your words at all. You said my guide is 100% subjective, when I literally have the undeniable math formula for Troll/Iksar Regeneration that never changes. So you are again factually incorrect on that point. You either do not understand what subjective and objective mean, or you are over generalizing to an absolute extreme.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 01-07-2021 at 12:12 PM..
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And while a very minor topic, I believe it's a stretch to indicate a jbb is a quite useful at 60, I'd agree it's more of a toy once you have torpor, pox and bane. Regarding your example, you can keep pox and bane rolling on a cliff golem without having agro the full time. Agro management between you and your pet on these types of mobs is heavily influenced by resists. If it's take 4+ casts to land slow, your pet is unlikely to pull agro throughout. And if you're allowing your pet to hold agro the full time, sure you're saving your hit points, but only because you're extending the fight by restricting your damage output. What's the point? Can you do it that way, sure, it's a game, play it however you want. But if you're min/maxing and trying to minimize the dmg you take, you're doing so by minimizing your threat output, which to an extent means you're limiting your damage output or at least not maximizing your capabilities. If you're not using the item to maximize your capabilities, doesn't that mean it's more of an item for fun than need? It's a fun item, I leaned on it heavily from 45 until 60, I loved my jbb and keep one just for fun. If I'm at a difficult camp or fighting a tough mob, 8 seconds to land a jbb is never going to be a priority over my other options. I know you've put in far more time and done more as a shaman that I have, but i have been playing a shaman for a few years, so I like to think I at least have a fair opinion on the class. . Sorry for any typos, on my phone and not taking the time to edit. | |||
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