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#1
10-16-2015, 11:31 PM
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Veeshan's Peak AEs - Incorrect Resist Checks
This bug report is based off my experience almost never resisting these AEs with 255 resists and wiki lists them at -150 Resist checks.
This is incorrect - None of these AEs should have a lure style check on them. Velious spdat (2001/01 and 2001/04): Quote:
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Currently on Nexona or Hoshkar you are getting hit for full hits 100% of the time with 255 Resists. They should definitely be tough to resist, but they should be resistable if you stack resists. There is a *slight* possibility they don't have resist checks and wiki is wrong, but if thats the case something else is amiss. These AEs shouldn't be hitting for full basically every time.
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#2
10-16-2015, 11:52 PM
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feels like in general AoE spells are way harder to resist than they should be; most old sources cite Sevalak as the easiest of the three triplets, but his AoE makes him MUCH harder than Cekenar because it's (basically) unresistable 1260 damage
beefing up player resist rate against NPC spells would solve a myriad of really weird issues including dragon roar being insane, damage aoes from dragons being basically unresistable for the most part, and level 20 green con NPCs frequently landing root on level 60s with MR gear good find, though, aside from that | ||
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#4
10-27-2015, 02:58 AM
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Freezing Breath
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2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Resistadj from 0 to -150 Code:
2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Resistadj from 0 to -150 to me it sounds like we're dealing with AoEs that were designed with a system where resists could go beyond 255; currently they're incredibly difficult to resist with only 255 of the given resist, whereas before resists were hardcapped at 255 here, they felt much more balanced these AoEs being realistically resistable with our current 255 cap seems much more in line with old archive posts and screenshots showing players simply standing in AoEs and dealing with them | ||
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#5
10-27-2015, 03:43 AM
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Resist system is Alunova's baby - been real hard to get him to change any of his work from Velious. Feels like they are intentionally inflating mob difficulty but it makes any dragon with Fear in Velious a zerg fest.
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#6
10-28-2015, 12:34 PM
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#7
10-29-2015, 11:12 AM
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Logs checked between [Tue Apr 21 11:19:13 2015] - [Wed Oct 28 18:21:06 2015] Only 2 resist messages Sevalak: [Sat Aug 08 22:17:35 2015] You resist the Chaos Breath spell! Von or Neordla: [Tue Aug 04 09:48:41 2015] You resist the Chaos Breath spell! Random sample grab for values/dragons; slight variation in damage: Code:
Vyemm (fall damage, not spell damage?) The non 100 damage was a result of bard song/runes dampening damage [Tue Aug 18 19:51:32 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 100 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:54:40 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 72 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:54:09 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:53:55 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:53:20 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:53:02 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:52:40 2015] The harmony fades. [Tue Oct 13 19:52:40 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:52:28 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:52:10 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:51:54 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:51:15 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:48:04 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 100 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:47:41 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 100 points of damage. [Tue Oct 13 19:47:23 2015] The harmony fades. [Tue Oct 13 19:47:23 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 82 points of damage. Sevalak: [Sat Aug 08 22:16:31 2015] Your aura fades. [Sat Aug 08 22:16:31 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1237 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 22:17:49 2015] Your aura fades. [Sat Aug 08 22:17:49 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1237 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 22:18:05 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1264 points of damage. [Thu Aug 20 18:11:29 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1264 points of damage. [Thu Aug 20 18:12:22 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1264 points of damage. [Wed Oct 14 18:38:36 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1264 points of damage. Von double proc?: [Sat Aug 08 14:44:52 2015] Von claws YOU for 153 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 14:44:52 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1228 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 14:44:52 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1228 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 14:44:56 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... [Sat Aug 08 14:45:21 2015] You have entered Temple of Veeshan. [Sun Aug 30 17:30:45 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1228 points of damage. Cargalia double proc?: [Sun Aug 23 17:35:13 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1228 points of damage. [Sun Aug 23 17:35:22 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1228 points of damage. [Sun Aug 23 17:35:22 2015] You have been slain by Cargalia! Jen Sapar double proc?: [Sun Aug 02 13:23:34 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1248 points of damage. [Sun Aug 02 13:23:37 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1248 points of damage. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1248 points of damage. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Incognito rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Saxx rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Riding rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Riding has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Kindra rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Kindra has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Fourier rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Defcon rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Leluyn rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gradner rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Rockem rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Chiggen rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Chiggen has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Engelburt rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Checkraise rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Rygrim rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Strange rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gongshow rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Elric rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gzaz rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Little rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Little has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Warzone rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Colgate rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Colgate has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gaping rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gaping has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Bush rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1248 points of damage. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] You have been knocked unconscious! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] You have been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] You have lost experience. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Saxx rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Saxx has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Fourier rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Fourier has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Defcon rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Defcon has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Leluyn rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Leluyn has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Rockem rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Rockem has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gongshow rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gongshow has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Elric rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Elric has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gzaz rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gzaz has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Warzone rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Warzone has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Bush rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Bush has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gradner rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Gradner has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Strange rises chaotically into the air. [Sun Aug 02 13:26:14 2015] Strange has been slain by Jen Sapara! [Sun Aug 02 13:26:18 2015] Returning to Erudin, please wait... [Sun Aug 02 13:26:18 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... [Wed Aug 19 17:19:35 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1248 points of damage. Mav Sapara: [Tue Aug 04 09:30:17 2015] Mav Sapara scowls at you, ready to attack -- looks like quite a gamble. [Tue Aug 04 09:30:23 2015] You experience chaotic weightlessness. You have taken 1240 points of damage. | |||
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#8
10-29-2015, 11:44 AM
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Logs checked between [Tue Apr 21 11:19:13 2015] - [Wed Oct 28 18:21:06 2015] Only 3 resist messages Zlexak: [Sat Aug 08 18:47:34 2015] You resist the Diseased Cloud spell! [Sat Aug 08 21:33:09 2015] You resist the Diseased Cloud spell! [Sat Aug 08 21:33:54 2015] You resist the Diseased Cloud spell! Code:
Zlexak: [Sat Aug 08 17:45:23 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 18:47:09 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 18:47:21 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 18:47:54 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 18:48:09 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 20:42:35 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 21:32:54 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Sat Aug 08 21:34:37 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Thu Aug 20 17:49:01 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Thu Aug 20 17:52:40 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Thu Aug 20 17:52:56 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Thu Aug 27 20:01:02 2015] The shimmer of runes fade. [Thu Aug 27 20:01:02 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 550 points of damage. [Wed Oct 14 18:22:23 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. [Thu Oct 22 17:32:54 2015] The harmony fades. [Thu Oct 22 17:32:54 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1232 points of damage. [Thu Oct 22 17:33:32 2015] The harmony fades. [Thu Oct 22 17:33:32 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1232 points of damage. [Thu Oct 22 17:34:19 2015] Your body begins to rot. You have taken 1250 points of damage. | |||
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#9
10-29-2015, 01:55 PM
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Yep basically these are hitting for maximum damn near every time regardless of resists.
These effects should be resistable, and stacking proper resist gear/buffs/bards should be far more relevant on these encounters than they have been. That's not to say someone with 100 DR should be resisting these AEs frequently. But if you're gear swapping and pushing 255 Resist, you should have a decent shot at resists and a pretty reliable shot at partial hits. You shouldn't however be seeing 15 full hits in a row.
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