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Old 04-02-2019, 06:15 AM
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Wasn’t the quote about him after he was out of office? Or am I mistaken.
It was several months before his reelection in 2012.

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This sounds like the same argument as saying the POTUS can’t commit obstruction because of the position. Which I have to assume you don’t agree with.
It's irrelevant. The wording of the statute is unequivocal. It also does not specify there is any need for intent to exist, despite comey lying through his teeth.
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:11 AM
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I don't know what you're trying to get me to admit.
What you already did ... that you don't know anything. And the facts about Comey aren't subtle either. Trump's grand father was a human trafficker, a drug trafficker and a draft dodger. Trump's father was a Klansman. Trump just hired for his whitehouse the lawyer of a man accused of prostituting scores of underage girls. Trump's casino received the largest fine ever levied for money laundering. The FBI knew exactly who Trump was.

And yet, the best you can come up with is "the IC has been wrong before, therefore the 100% consensus across 20 agencies must be wrong this time as well."
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:27 AM
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Thought you were better than that.
Not sure why you would have thought that.
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Old 04-02-2019, 11:37 AM
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This sounds like the same argument as saying the POTUS can’t commit obstruction because of the position. Which I have to assume you don’t agree with.
I think you're confusing obstruction with indictment. The House "indicted" Nixon for obstruction.
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:13 PM
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I think you're confusing obstruction with indictment. The House "indicted" Nixon for obstruction.
I’m not, many people believe the POTUS can’t obstruct justice because of the nature and scope of the position. Which many people oppose unless it’s their team at the helm. Which is the same argument you’re claiming for why Hilary isn’t capable of said crime.
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:19 PM
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I’m not, many people believe the POTUS can’t obstruct justice because of the nature and scope of the position. Which many people oppose unless it’s their team at the helm. Which is the same argument you’re claiming for why Hilary isn’t capable of said crime.
oh i see. the president cannot obstruct justice because he is the highest enforcement authority. department heads who disobey him, ie the head of the doj are simply fireable. that's not so much an argument about guilt or innocence as it is a technicality of executive power.

what do you call an attorney general who attempts to prosecute POTUS?
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:53 PM
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Technically in a democracy "the people" are the highest level of "enforcement".

Not sure if Trump is skating on thin ice yet, but he's doing a great job sliding out there on his fat ass.
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Old 04-02-2019, 02:05 PM
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What you already did ... that you don't know anything. And the facts about Comey aren't subtle either. Trump's grand father was a human trafficker, a drug trafficker and a draft dodger. Trump's father was a Klansman. Trump just hired for his whitehouse the lawyer of a man accused of prostituting scores of underage girls. Trump's casino received the largest fine ever levied for money laundering. The FBI knew exactly who Trump was.

And yet, the best you can come up with is "the IC has been wrong before, therefore the 100% consensus across 20 agencies must be wrong this time as well."
The pot and the kettle thing bud. You’ve been consistently wrong about this for years now. He won’t be indicted or impeached. If he is, ill admit I was wrong. If he’s not, you’ll stick to whatever argument you can concoct at that moment because you’re as ideological as someone who watches foxnews

The Kurdish comment was a joke morons. Get a life. Most of their territory was, however, Christian land prior to them genociding Armenians and Assyrians in 1915. The Kurdish “homeland” is about 50% stolen. I’d give it to Armenia before the Kurds. Then again, I’m aware of history in the Middle East. Most westerners aren’t and have a hard on for the Kurds
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Old 04-02-2019, 02:21 PM
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Most westerners aren’t and have a hard on for the Kurds
There is a place in my area that makes these wonderful cheese curds, I have a hard on for them.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:09 PM
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The pot and the kettle thing bud. You’ve been consistently wrong about this for years now. He won’t be indicted or impeached. If he is, ill admit I was wrong. If he’s not, you’ll stick to whatever argument you can concoct at that moment because you’re as ideological as someone who watches foxnews
Trump is either under sealed indictment or he's not. Both of the people who reported that he is follow me on Twitter. One worked for one of the Clintons. Here's what I think about the Clintons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O78gUTO_1M

You'll want to watch the segment on Forward Looking Infrared Radar starting at the 1 hour 36 minute mark.

And:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gW7QwevFI

Did you see the movie Made in America with Tom Cruise? There's a dramatic scene where Governor Clinton calls and orders the investigation into drug smuggling in Mena, Arkansas shut down. That's a dramatization and not how it actually happened. The above documentary Mena Connection includes interviews with the actual investigators. As they explain, they weren't ordered to shut down the investigation. Clinton simply refused to fund it and later lied about even knowing about the investigation. Watch legendary journalist Sarah McClendon question Clinton at the one minute 20 second mark and ask yourself if you believe him any more than when he said he didn't bang Lewinsky.

The other person who reported that Trump is under sealed indictment formerly worked for Rupert Murdoch and is a huge Bush family cheerleader. Prescott Bush had his bank's assets seized under the trading with the enemies act during world war II because he was doing business with the Nazis. Of course, if Trump decides to fire up the ovens again I'm sure you'll volunteer to be head baker. You know fuck all about my ideology and I don't concern myself with the opinions of bigots.
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