Two noobies unable to play together :(

[JamesSergio]

Hi Guys,

Not really sure if this is the correct thing to do or if I need to be messaging someone in game.

Me and my brother live together and we used to play loads of EQ in our younger days [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are looking to give P99 Green a good blast but when we try to log in when the other is online we are unable to do so we get a message about IP, I think, pretty sure to stop boxing I'm guessing.

Is there a way we can make it so we can play together without one moving out, we are considering it as we are desperate to play [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but I think there might be another way! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look forward to any help we can get!

Tixie - level 2 wood elf Druid. Watch out, here I come!

[Graahle]

https://wiki.project1999.com/IP_Exemption

[Aeaolena]

Yep! You can Petition for an IP exception and will be able to play together. They do them in batches so may need to wait a little while for it to go through.

Word of advice - Just follow a "butts in seats" type mentality, be careful with it and you'll be fine. P1999 is extremely strict about two-boxing.

It will be tempting to log in each other's characters for "just a second" to cast a buff, or lean over and hit a heal macro while one of you is pooping - but just don't. Butts in seats. Else that will be the exact moment a GM pulls you in for box-testing.. and all your time/gear from 2 years of playing will be flushed down the drain.

Poor guy I know logged in his wife's high level shaman to quickly buff his alt, and got both their accounts insta-banned after he failed a surprise box-test. It's pretty painful and not worth it. So make sure your brother understands so he doesn't screw ya over a year from now~

[Dural_Levant]

Originally Posted by Aeaolena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep! You can Petition for an IP exception and will be able to play together. They do them in batches so may need to wait a little while for it to go through.

Word of advice - Just follow a "butts in seats" type mentality, be careful with it and you'll be fine. P1999 is extremely strict about two-boxing.

It will be tempting to log in each other's characters for "just a second" to cast a buff, or lean over and hit a heal macro while one of you is pooping - but just don't. Butts in seats. Else that will be the exact moment a GM pulls you in for box-testing.. and all your time/gear from 2 years of playing will be flushed down the drain.

Poor guy I know logged in his wife's high level shaman to quickly buff his alt, and got both their accounts insta-banned after he failed a surprise box-test. It's pretty painful and not worth it. So make sure your brother understands so he doesn't screw ya over a year from now~

This is good advice.

It took like a week for my IP Exemption to go through, but I have heard of people waiting for like up to three weeks. Just carefully follow instructions when formatting your post.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Aeaolena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep! You can Petition for an IP exception and will be able to play together. They do them in batches so may need to wait a little while for it to go through.

Word of advice - Just follow a "butts in seats" type mentality, be careful with it and you'll be fine. P1999 is extremely strict about two-boxing.

It will be tempting to log in each other's characters for "just a second" to cast a buff, or lean over and hit a heal macro while one of you is pooping - but just don't. Butts in seats. Else that will be the exact moment a GM pulls you in for box-testing.. and all your time/gear from 2 years of playing will be flushed down the drain.

Poor guy I know logged in his wife's high level shaman to quickly buff his alt, and got both their accounts insta-banned after he failed a surprise box-test. It's pretty painful and not worth it. So make sure your brother understands so he doesn't screw ya over a year from now~

I mean the guy in the example in the last paragraph must have been doing this a bunch. The GMs aren’t just following around every player the second they log in so it’s not like he did this just one time by mistake and got caught. He would’ve had to have been doing this multiple times and either got noticed by a GM or a player thought it looked suspicious and petitioned. Just saying like when someone gets caught boxing it’s not because they were like an innocent player who happened to make a one time mistake, they were boxing consistently.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Aeaolena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Poor guy I know logged in his wife's high level shaman to quickly buff his alt, and got both their accounts insta-banned after he failed a surprise box-test. It's pretty painful and not worth it. So make sure your brother understands so he doesn't screw ya over a year from now~

Kinda shitty the lengths they'll go to just to stop supposed boxing. If someone isn't actively boxing 2 chars monopolizing camps and stuff who cares lol. I've had situations where a friend has a high lvl druid and he wanted to leave his druid logged in on his work laptop in the background while hes at work and set up audio triggers so I could just request re-buffs from him while I lvl an alt but we decided it wasn't worth the risk in case we got nailed for "boxing" even though we weren't. Being at work he couldn't respond to a random box test at any moment. Kinda annoying tbh. You run the risk of being banned for boxing just for playing semi afk while someone else on same IP is playing. I lost an account I had an insane amount of time invested in and all the valuable items/clickies u could imagine all for a dumb thing I didn't even do. Unrelated to boxing but the same concerns apply. You could lose months/years of investment for something so f'ing stupid at any time.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda shitty the lengths they'll go to just to stop supposed boxing. If someone isn't actively boxing 2 chars monopolizing camps and stuff who cares lol. I've had situations where a friend has a high lvl druid and he wanted to leave his druid logged in on his work laptop in the background while hes at work and set up audio triggers so I could just request re-buffs from him while I lvl an alt but we decided it wasn't worth the risk in case we got nailed for "boxing" even though we weren't. Being at work he couldn't respond to a random box test at any moment. Kinda annoying tbh. You run the risk of being banned for boxing just for playing semi afk while someone else on same IP is playing. I lost an account I had an insane amount of time invested in and all the valuable items/clickies u could imagine all for a dumb thing I didn't even do.

Kinda shitty that you and your "friend" want to cheat a 20+ year old game because you can't do what literally thousands of other players can: play it by the rules, as intended.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unrelated to boxing but the same concerns apply. You could lose months/years of investment for something so f'ing stupid at any time.

Bullshit. The only way to lose your character is to break the rules (which are very clearly posted), as you did.

Hell, I've (god I'm embarrassed to say this) mistakenly accused the founders of this server of violating intellectual property law! ... and I'm still playing, with no characters lost. (Thank you again for your forgiveness, benevolent overlords Rogean and Nilbog.)

[Graahle]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda shitty that you and your "friend" want to cheat a 20+ year old game because you can't do what literally thousands of other players can: play it by the rules, as intended.



Bullshit. The only way to lose your character is to break the rules (which are very clearly posted), as you did.

Hell, I've (god I'm embarrassed to say this) mistakenly accused the founders of this server of violating intellectual property law! ... and I'm still playing, with no characters lost. (Thank you again for your forgiveness, benevolent overlords Rogean and Nilbog.)

God you sound old

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit. The only way to lose your character is to break the rules (which are very clearly posted), as you did.

False. I clearly outlined a scenario in which you could be banned in which you did nothing against any rules. A friend afk/semi afk with audio triggers that alt tabs back to buff me when requested isn't boxing nor is it breaking any rules I'm aware of. It could certainly easily be interpreted as boxing though and if you aren't prepared to pass a boxing test at a moments notice you could be falsely labeled/banned very easily.

I personally lost my main account due to having a (inactive) 3rd party program running in the background that I forgot to close before launching P99 for 5 minutes when I was playing another server that allows said program. Did I break the rules? Technically yes. However, it was never actually used or even configured to work on P99 but their judge/jury/executioner DLL picked it up and I was labeled a cheater regardless and it sort of felt like attempts at appeal weren't taken seriously or even really considered. The point at which I supposedly "cheated" I was logged in to the game for less than 20 minutes and hadn't been logged in for months prior. I literally logged in to give a friend something and talk to a couple people for a minute then logged off. I never even left EC tunnel from memory. But apparently that constitutes being an unforgivable hackerman and staff feel it justified to torch my thousands of hours of investment over it. As you can tell I'm a bit salty about it still.

Inb4 trolls tell me I deserved it

[loramin]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. I clearly outlined a scenario in which you could be banned in which you did nothing against any rules. A friend afk/semi afk with audio triggers that alt tabs back to buff me when requested isn't boxing nor is it breaking any rules I'm aware of.

It is boxing (you're playing two accounts at once: your's and your "friend's"), plus you're breaking the rules on automation:

3. You may not kill NPC's while you are not at your PC.

It is against the rules to "afk camp" any NPC or groups of NPC's by placing a pet nearby and letting it kill while you are away from your computer. Any other form of "afk camping", such as faction killing, is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action.

In addition to this rule, and further explained in section 5, you may not Forage items using any automated program (hardware or software).

and:

5. You may not use third-party programs on Project 1999.

The use of any third-party programs on Project 1999, including but not limited to, Macroquest/Macroquest2(MQ/MQ2), ShowEQ(SEQ), or any other program that interacts with the Everquest Titanium Client, is strictly prohibited. Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s). No exceptions will be made, and once a ban has been enacted for violation of this rule it will not be reversed.

This includes programmable keyboards or other devices that creates multiple inputs for a single keystroke or automated task.

Wineq2 by Lavishsoft is the exception to this rule. In addition, any program that strictly reads log files is acceptable.

- https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=325349

Every other player of this game (again, literally thousands of people) play the game with one account; they don't play multiple accounts, automated or otherwise. If they want buffs from another class, they ask a human playing that class.

You're the only one who felt the need to cheat and setup AFK buffing for yourself using multiple accounts.

Originally Posted by Graahle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God you sound old

Yes, I'm a very old 40-year old. Get off my damn lawn!