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so your argument is that creators of everquest made enchanters, with a charm spell, but they never intended the charm spell to be used to charm mobs and make them fight eachother for the player's gain?
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it sounds like this guy, loramin, wants to control people reallllllly badly and sites old questionable documents to instill doubt and create confusion...
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so peoples perceptions of charming were that it was very unsafe / not viable in 99 and now, in 2023 people feel safer charming
why would the gameplay ever be the same in year one of a game versus year 24 of a game? | ||
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If charming was as awesome as it is here, Enchanters back then would have (for instance) charmed in groups. But they didn't, and you can see as much in old forum posts. It wasn't because of stupidity, it was because charming was too risky. It's just like with binding wounds in combat. People here kept patting themselves on the back for how smart they were doing something people in '99 were too dumb to do ... until it was proven that it was impossible in '99, and the problem was that our emulator wasn't emulating properly. Quote:
But, as I've said before, we don't need some special meta rule to make the server more classic. We just need to make the emulator itself more accurate, and there are already tickets (with solid evidence) in the bug forums explaining how to do that.
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have you ever tried to charm with low charisma?
have you ever tried to level an enchanter solo by charming? remember back in the day when zones were so camped people would sit at a spawn of like only 3 mobs with their group? You don't think that the game being around for this long with this many empty servers and people having this much time on their hands could have potentially evolved the gameplay? Like gamers are the same skill level now that they were in 99 when the game was that new? My point is that there are so many reasons for the situation you describe other than coding | ||
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But really, my personal experience is irrelevant: what's relevant is that if you read classic sources (or remember playing in the classic era) the P99 Enchanter's role has completely changed, while no other class's has. Quote:
More to the point, Druids soloed in classic. Necromancers soloed in classic. Mages soloed in classic. Soloing absolutely happened, and there were known "soloing" classes, just as there were "grouping" classes. Enchanters were the latter. Here on P99, Druids/Necros/Mages still solo. Warriors/Hybrids/Clerics still group. Enchanter is the only class that's changed its role (from primarily grouping to primarily soloing). Quote:
But ... they don't change fundamental aspects of the game. And again, in classic charming was risky enough that (even if you had a good connection, which many did) most Enchanters still grouped. If our goal here is to recreate that game, then we'll never put the connection/knowledge genie back in the bottle ... but we absolutely should pay attention to the mechanics which aren't classic (like the bugs I mentioned earlier).
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