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Anyway and to essentially echo our conversation tonight, TMO in no way condones Dinacarl's actions. Heck, I initiated the attempt to open up a line of communication between us (months ago) as a show of good faith towards that to begin with. I gave every reassurance possible that this type of behavior wouldn't be permitted here, removed the stated offender from the guild, and even extended my own joint support with BDA in any attempt seeking GM punishment on Dinacarl (or any future offender) for his actions. If that isn't "good enough" for you, or what one should be reasonably looking to accomplish in the attempt to find a resolution regarding a non-raid incident (minus the rule lawyering that wants to paint what amounts to an exp group tagging along with 18 GT in Fear as TMO acting out as a raid entity, of course)...then yeah, i guess that all was the waste of time *you* claimed it to be. I'm all for owning up to individual accountability, as i believe we've proven on numerous occasions over the past months. If you want to talk on those terms the door is always open. If you are just looking to grind an old axe and/or play the R&F game, this really shouldn't be the place for it though imo. | |||
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On a side note, it's good to see an IB rep up in here. There's a thread a couple spots down titled "Proposed Raid Rule Adjustments/Changes", specifically addressing the issue of spam click tracking and concern over autofire use. Feel free to chime in. Likely would be helpful to everybody hearing IB's input and current stance on the matter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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Individual asshattery, historically, has been policed by server staff and done so typically swiftly and sternly (individual suspensions, bans, etc). Raid disputes are when guild leadership is told to first try to reach a resolution, and to try hard, before escalating. That's happened. Unfortunately, an agreement has not been made. I can understand server staff requesting that we continue to go to the table with each other - but please stop painting it like it's a one way street where BDA is off the handle and forcing the resolution to never come to fruition. Both Mazam and Chest AGREE that they differ in opinion on the severity of the issue, and therein cannot reach a resolution. I understand your distaste (both Sirken and Derubael) for Chest individually, but if you'd offer him (and BDA) even 1/2 the respect in public that you do other guild leadership (and stop discounting his statements just because he is who he is) perhaps that would help resolutions be less difficult to solve.
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Fear/Hate trash clears and Ragefire kills aren't usually "Raid Encounters" but sometimes can be considered as such; it all depends on the circumstances surrounding the dispute. | |||
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