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Old 10-07-2022, 04:15 PM
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I think people can get hyper-fixated on the absolute best classes for raiding, but really all the classes are quite useful / do something useful for the raid. Necros don't have the sexiest job in the world but being a mana battery is pretty damn helpful.
Was raiding last night and we ran into a pinch where Clerics were OOM.

Within 5 or 6 secs, they were all at 95% mana from all the twitches at once. It was pretty sweet.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:16 PM
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It was awful for me. Went to Vox, Naggy, Phinny raids, all belly casters. I was completely useless as wizard. If I got close enough to nuke, I was dead.
What do they do if you get close? Just wondering. I hope to raid on a wizard one day.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:20 PM
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As a Necro looking into raiding, what is "DA training" and "bone walking"? I'm assuming the DA has something to do with Harmshield?
Bone walk /nod
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:26 PM
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What do they do if you get close? Just wondering. I hope to raid on a wizard one day.
I get hit and die, period. Those who says Wizards are awesome in classic needs to educate me on how. I just don't see it.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:35 PM
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I get hit and die, period. Those who says Wizards are awesome in classic needs to educate me on how. I just don't see it.
They just like, turn to you and smack you? I figured tank aggro would be a thing.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:43 PM
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They just like, turn to you and smack you? I figured tank aggro would be a thing.
No, I nuke, then they turn and hit me. Or I die from aoe.
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Old 10-07-2022, 04:47 PM
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No, I nuke, then they turn and hit me. Or I die from aoe.
Ahh I gotcha. Thanks for the info. The skin spells don't help at all with that?
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Old 10-07-2022, 05:07 PM
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Superior healing does just fine in a duo.
It doesn't. Trying to face tank things with a Melee + Druid duo at higher levels will result in an extremely slow kill rate. Druid healing is too inefficient to keep up with the damage output that's happening.

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If Cleric is unavailable, Shaman and Druid are next more desired for Warrior/SK/Pal/Ranger/Monk/Rogue
Druids at higher levels in these duos need to rely on snare kiting to be efficient, which is not always possible. Simply being there to snare and aggro kite is not a unique thing either. Wizards, SK's, Rangers, Necros, and Bards can all do that. Necros generally do it best because of the DPS they contribute at the same time (Druids need to have a good charm pet available to be great).

If face tanking things, Druids are inferior to an Enchanter as a duo partner for a melee class. They are also inferior to Necromancers, a class with more efficient heal-over-time capability than Druids, and again the Necromancer is simultaneously giving better DPS too, if the Druid doesn't have a good charm pet. Bards are also going to be better than a Druid in that case, because they can slow the targets, which prevents more damage than a Druid can heal, and can also create better DPS.
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Old 10-07-2022, 05:29 PM
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It doesn't. Trying to face tank things with a Melee + Druid duo at higher levels will result in an extremely slow kill rate. Druid healing is too inefficient to keep up with the damage output that's happening.



Druids at higher levels in these duos need to rely on snare kiting to be efficient, which is not always possible. Simply being there to snare and aggro kite is not a unique thing either. Wizards, SK's, Rangers, Necros, and Bards can all do that. Necros generally do it best because of the DPS they contribute at the same time (Druids need to have a good charm pet available to be great).

If face tanking things, Druids are inferior to an Enchanter as a duo partner for a melee class. They are also inferior to Necromancers, a class with more efficient heal-over-time capability than Druids, and again the Necromancer is simultaneously giving better DPS too, if the Druid doesn't have a good charm pet. Bards are also going to be better than a Druid in that case, because they can slow the targets, which prevents more damage than a Druid can heal, and can also create better DPS.
You could be right, maybe that's why I never play 50+. I can't imagine playing a melee class and saying I wish I had a non healer as my duo partner. Seems retarded.
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