Raiding in Class R

[Errakus]

Maybe we should bring back Doljonijiarnimorinar...

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i love how dumbrella's approach is actually going to cause moar trains and moar griefing.

guise, it's much easier and moar civil if we require all raid zones to operate by training trash away like TMO does in VP/PoFear.

There's the rub. Training all your shit up to inny's room while everyone frantically races up there is not a wise way to get FTE and it wiped 3 guilds. Pulling inny cleanly to zone wiped 0 guilds. The proof's in the pudding. Is TMO petioning IB and Taken, and IB petitioning TMO and Taken, and Taken petitioning IB and TMO for training each other at Inny? No, Unbrella is fixated on what Chest did that didn't cause any harm.

Why do you need the zone in if you're camped out?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you need the zone in if you're camped out?

because TMO clearly needs two camps to kill inny. they're not giving up the zone in camp when they move up to the well, they're just dividing their force so that they get a second FTE after the first group wipes/camps.

on track: camping the zone in in hate is a requirement. despite what dumbrella would have you believe, it's not debatable: you must clear the zone in in order progress through the rest of the zone. therefore, anybody pulling to the zone in has established themselves as camping the zone in.

if TMO had established a camp at the zone in and planned to continue to pull there, shame on chest for planting a raid on top of them and then pulling on top of them. if TMO had really moved up, then they relinquished any claim to the camp at the zone in, and BDA has clear claim to the camp and any remaining TMO must leave the zone or move to the TMO camp, or else they have no further claim to camp.

then, if chest pulls inny to the zone in while passing through every opposing camp ultimately training them and wiping their raid, then shame on chest. but if chest pulls inny to the zone in (to his established camp), and there are no other raid forces in between the spawn and the BDA raid force, then it sounds like a clean pull to me.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you need the zone in if you're camped out?

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you need the zone in?

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you zone in?

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why zone in?

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

zone in

[arsenalpow]

TMO claims all camps in the zone.

[Ravager]

lol at the raid discussion thread. I hope Sirken and Deru have the sense to not let Unbrella drag them into another 8 hour vent conference.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you need the zone in if you're camped out?

[SyanideGas]

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

[Funkutron5000]

I know it might be hard to believe, but sometimes raids get somewhat separated. Also, it turns out, not everyone always ports up at the same time. This leads to a mix of people who could be at the zone in, which is a safe area after the initial mobs have been cleared. Other guilds could be sending up reinforcements to aid in a corpse run to try and take another shot a the mob. People could be switching toons because the class composition of your raid isn't right and you need more wars/ clerics/ whatever. There are multiple reasons why people might be zoning in to the plane of Hate. Now, because there is only one place to zone in, it's kind of a shitty move to, say, pull a mob that tosses out AoEs on to the ONLY PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN ZONE IN TO THE ZONE.

But TMO did blah blah blah in the past so who cares

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know it might be hard to believe, but sometimes raids get somewhat separated. Also, it turns out, not everyone always ports up at the same time. This leads to a mix of people who could be at the zone in, which is a safe area after the initial mobs have been cleared. Other guilds could be sending up reinforcements to aid in a corpse run to try and take another shot a the mob. People could be switching toons because the class composition of your raid isn't right and you need more wars/ clerics/ whatever. There are multiple reasons why people might be zoning in to the plane of Hate. Now, because there is only one place to zone in, it's kind of a shitty move to, say, pull a mob that tosses out AoEs on to the ONLY PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN ZONE IN TO THE ZONE.

But TMO did blah blah blah in the past so who cares

TMO claims all camps as their own, nothing shall ever be pulled, thus is the will of Corova.