One last point though.

[Pseudechis]

They had a raid force ready. they corpsed everyone at WL zone line ry for rez and buffs........

[Cylock]

Originally Posted by Aesop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that facts are this:

In range dispelling of mobs was the old precedent. Everyone knew it, that's why we did it on Dozekar. We didn't expect to get suspended for it. All toons were in range.

We got suspended on three toons. Precedent was set. Apex knew it, they were sending tells to me, Dagon/Ogrok making fun of us for being suspended for dispelling.

And there is this:

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Precedent changed, we appealed and Sirken upheld it. The toons are still suspended. New precedent is dispelling mob is only OK if you have a raid force ready and contesting the mob (not 3 salty dudes logging in alt after alt to dispel mobs). New precedent was set by Apex, not Ragnarok. This was posted about, talked about in ooc and well known among your officers but they wanted our raid ruined and you to eat the suspension so they didn't have to.

At Tormax/Statue you guys are dispelling the mobs on oor toons because you got assfucked on your mains. OOR dispelling has never been legal. Never. Quil dispels in range, but doesn't have a raid force, just a solitary griefer. Which up until Doze, was totally fine.

We did in in Thunderdome yes, but it was legal and considered fair play at the time. Hence Tune's whiney poll.

Hope this helps.

You guys should read that

With that said, its in black and white for you ALL to see now.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=148787

[Utanven]

Originally Posted by grannock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hu? Some of our toons ate suspys this week for things like dispelling and training even though we tried very hard not to train and engage in mass pvp.

You said "this week" we've dealt with this for a year.

Any one of us could drop bombs on level 46 alts in tov and make it unplayable, do we really want that for this server?

This is exactly what you have been doing, for a year. I just want the same rules for both sides

[LostCause]

that shit is buillshit getting suspended for dispelling is this fucking blue? no... they are in range they can easily do something... so adding new rules to the list?

[Stasis01]

Last time I saw sirken was when empire was getting dicked in kc years ago. Sirken showed up and they got vs. Sirken showed up and they got tormax.

[Pseudechis]

Woodelf Ragnarok Stasis Kael Drakkel XXX 5.28 4/3/17 11:52:00 PM


Yikes......1v1 honour duel between rogues in mithril...

[Gustoo]

Cylock I don't see the word dispell in the PNP

Can you please add clarification

I think in range players can do whatever they want right?

When you say someone needs a raid force u need to then define that very specifically and also what if he has raid force at the ready on batphone rather than actually online or other dumb things.

[funnland]

Well at least Cylock put this in writing now.

EDIT:

I agree with the above poster. Can we add the word dispel, and add clarification in terms of interrupting the actual raid mob and not the players fighting it.

[letsjoe]

Originally Posted by Utanven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does Sirken realize the people he is protecting from this "grief" have been doing the exact same thing for months?

Why do you think Mornin, Quantized, Miranda are bound where they are?

Why didn't the guides who care so much call you then? We all petitioned.

I appreciate the staff & server & have donated to show this.

Certain people get services, others get ignored, it's hard to overlook the facts.

been suspended on many of my chars multiple times for training apex early on (widespread,letsjoe,pinetop). fact of the matter is if you see a gm show up, you should stop doing things that are even remotely dirty, unless you dont care (mad lads like me)

[Cylock]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cylock I don't see the word dispell in the PNP

Can you please add clarification

I think in range players can do whatever they want right?

When you say someone needs a raid force u need to then define that very specifically and also what if he has raid force at the ready on batphone rather than actually online or other dumb things.

This right there tells me SOME of you guys don't read anything we post. Its all there ...

Originally Posted by Cylock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4/5/17: Since some of you just don't get it, I figured I would post it here as a reminder so you don't forget.

To encourage more actual PvP combat and less just griefing each other, and due to the previous standard of a couple players interfering with a raid target while having no actual raid or PvP force present in game to contest or kill, we have added this rule:

"A player that interferes with a raid target with no raid force present to kill or contest the target is against the rules and will be addressed swiftly."

It says interferes for a reason, because I know how you guys like to split hairs and rule lawyer.

This is you some of you guys in a nutshell ...

Person says hey I wouldn't go down that road if I was you, the other guy just looks down the road and goes anyway. Five minutes later the guy is in a head on collision for going down a one way street the wrong way. But then wants to blame the other guy for not telling him *exactly*. Give me a break.