rule clarity

[KEWLGET]

Noble Dojorn
Overseer of Air
Hand of Veeshan
Keeper of Souls
The Spiroc Lord
Bazzt Zzzt
Sister of the Spire
Eye of Veeshan
a dracoliche
Dread
Fright
Terror
Cazic Thule
Maestro of Rancor
Innoruuk
Master Yael
Phinigel Autropos
Lord Nagafen
Lady Vox
Lhranc
Ixiblat Fer
Zordakalicus Ragefire
General V`Ghera
Xenevorash
Prince Selrach Di`Zok
Queen Velazul Di`Zok
Overking Bathezid
Trakanon
Venril Sathir
Gorenaire
Talendor
Severilous
Faydedar
Silverwing
Hoshkar
Nexona
Druushk
Xygoz
Phara Dar
Derakor the Vindicator
The Statue of Rallos Zek
The Avatar of War
King Tormax
Dain Frostreaver IV
Lord Yelinak
Wuoshi
Kelorek`Dar
Velketor the Sorcerer
Zlandicar
Klandicar
Sontalak
Ring 10 War
Tunare
Telkorenar
Gozzrem
Lendiniara the Keeper
Dozekar the Cursed
Ikatiar the Venom
Eashen of the Sky
Aaryonar
Lord Feshlak
Dagarn the Destroyer
Lord Kreizenn
Lord Vyemm
Lord Koi`Doken
Lady Mirenilla
Lady Nevederia
Jorlleag
Cekenar
Sevalak
Zlexak
Vulak`Aerr
Master of the Guard
The Progenitor
The Final Arbiter
Tukaarak the Warder
Hraashna the Warder
Nanzata the Warder
Ventani the Warder

[heartbrand]

Thoughts on Garzicor's Wraith?

[KEWLGET]

oh yeah definitely a raid mob, akin to epic quest bosses:

Noble Dojorn
Overseer of Air
Hand of Veeshan
Keeper of Souls
The Spiroc Lord
Bazzt Zzzt
Sister of the Spire
Eye of Veeshan
a dracoliche
Dread
Fright
Terror
Cazic Thule
Maestro of Rancor
Innoruuk
Master Yael
Phinigel Autropos
Lord Nagafen
Lady Vox
Lhranc
Ixiblat Fer
Zordakalicus Ragefire
General V`Ghera
Xenevorash
Prince Selrach Di`Zok
Queen Velazul Di`Zok
Overking Bathezid
Trakanon
Venril Sathir
Gorenaire
Talendor
Severilous
Faydedar
Silverwing
Hoshkar
Nexona
Druushk
Xygoz
Phara Dar
Derakor the Vindicator
The Statue of Rallos Zek
The Avatar of War
King Tormax
Dain Frostreaver IV
Lord Yelinak
Wuoshi
Kelorek`Dar
Velketor the Sorcerer
Garzicor's Wraith
Zlandicar
Klandicar
Sontalak
Ring 10 War
Tunare
Telkorenar
Gozzrem
Lendiniara the Keeper
Dozekar the Cursed
Ikatiar the Venom
Eashen of the Sky
Aaryonar
Lord Feshlak
Dagarn the Destroyer
Lord Kreizenn
Lord Vyemm
Lord Koi`Doken
Lady Mirenilla
Lady Nevederia
Jorlleag
Cekenar
Sevalak
Zlexak
Vulak`Aerr
Master of the Guard
The Progenitor
The Final Arbiter
Tukaarak the Warder
Hraashna the Warder
Nanzata the Warder
Ventani the Warder

[Gustoo]

This seems silly but is a legit concern also does minimum force requirement only apply when raid boss is engaged or just when raid is collectively gathered for their task? Can one guy or a group of guys go in and start raising heck while they are clearing a dungeon?

[Palemoon]

Good Good, hold them to enforcing play nice. Drown them in red tape and cramp their hands as they have to write pages and pages of more rules to clarify the previous rules. Wonder how long it will take to get entire guilds disbanded and swaths of people banned again (like holocaust and Nilly). All in the name of cumbersome anti-sandbox rules NO one wanted except certain people with evil agendas that are no longer here.


Then maybe one day we can return to the golden age of day 1 server rules we use to have.

-No pvp rules except no training or exploiting.

-In GAME and hands-off system that mitigate player zone disruption like:

-no pvp level limits in high end zones and raid zones.
-xp loss on pvp death
-increased pvp level range at the higher levels.

i.e. all things we had day 1 of the server.

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This seems silly but is a legit concern also does minimum force requirement only apply when raid boss is engaged or just when raid is collectively gathered for their task? Can one guy or a group of guys go in and start raising heck while they are clearing a dungeon?

One guy or group of guys SHOULD be able to do whatever they want vs. a raid force (or anyone).

The problem is there is no price to pay for just throwing your warm body over and over again at a raid force.

This is why we need xp loss on pvp death BACK.

added side effect: people will be out in the world again xping for pvp xp buffer. More life in the world, more pvp at xp spots, etc. Reason to log in other than once a week at raid time. To xp or distrupt the oppositions xp.

[Retticus]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good Good, hold them to enforcing play nice. Drown them in red tape and cramp their hands as they have to write pages and pages of more rules to clarify the previous rules. Wonder how long it will take to get entire guilds disbanded and swaths of people banned again (like holocaust and Nilly). All in the name of cumbersome anti-sandbox rules NO one wanted except certain people with evil agendas that are no longer here.


Then maybe one day we can return to the golden age of day 1 server rules we use to have.

-No pvp rules except no training or exploiting.

-In GAME and hands-off system that mitigate player zone disruption like:

-no pvp level limits in high end zones and raid zones.
-xp loss on pvp death
-increased pvp level range at the higher levels.

i.e. all things we had day 1 of the server.

I'm cool with this. Too many Band-Aids and half assed changes made to server, both code remedies and stupid rule implementations. Please undo all.

Thank you Arzak

[Pseudechis]

Yeh just make everyone in range in raid zones

[Retticus]

@cylock @sirken make raid zones FFA like they used to be and this takes the headache away from both staff and players.

Better than having to suspend/reducing pop/micro managing.

[Nirgon]

That's not a change a GM can make tho

Kael being FFA would suck