Good fix Nilbog, but how about making this playable now?

[shadowdinah]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't even play on Blue anymore.

[Vallaen]

To the people saying you have to crawl ToV now to get loot can you stop saying that please.

The meta is to CoTH to safe spots set up inside ToV so you can skip as much crawling as possible.

[kaizersoze]

disable coth in TOV 2020

[Ripqozko]

Last time we crawled lavittz trained 300 people.

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last time we crawled lavittz trained 300 people.

That was a train worthy of the gods.

[Solist]

Crawling TOV =/ Being cothed up to safe spot. Sitting in one spot. Train merbs away and tag in one at a time for 30mins.

Move to another spot 50ft away, press 1 every 15 seconds or autoattack.

Evac out.

Coth to another safe spot. Rinse repeat.

You're joking if you think anyone 'crawls' ToV at all. Even for Mir/Koi, you just sit at aary steps auto attacking for 40mins, then run for 20 seconds to dragon. Occasionally a guild may run from trips hallway through to vulak hallway.

Make the picture room and 4way mobs leash so you have to kill them (instead of train out to west), and make dragons only go so far as picture room hallway if we unroot them. Some form of having to 'crawl' is needed.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last time we crawled lavittz trained 300 people.

I remember it well.

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[Mblake81]

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[Ripqozko]

Congrats on posting reddit

[SantagarBrax]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was a whole raid culture setup around the cheesing. The pull team were the all star players who were neck deep in strategies on how to train the zone around and bounce the Dragon off different pullers, using DA idols, spells and other assorted items. These guys were the most vocal when the rooted change happened because it stole the spotlight from their level of play.

(Since mistakes could happen with a complicated pull it allowed other smaller guilds who were there and could 'snipe' the Dragon. The rooting removed this and caused some heartache for some of the smaller less elite guilds as they had worked hard to get to that level of cheese.)

The other group were the 10 minute guys. They would have their characters camped and log on just for the kill. It wasn't about playing the character they leveled to 60 or even using the gear they earned. The rooted change actually let them use that high resist gear etc but it took too long for their style of play. See possible 3+ hour crawls vs. 10 minute log on. They batphone, a mass alarm sent to everyones cellphone alerting them a Dragon had spawned and was being pulled would que them to log in.

Dragons were pulled by the pull team the instant they popped. So it was a mixture of cheesing the zone and skilled play, although I have to be careful how I use the world skill because there is a counter argument here on the forums that EQ requires 0 (zero) skill to play. Its part of forum pwning.

You would think if the original developers for this era of EQ wanted their ultimate zone being pulled in such a way then they would have just put all the dragons near the zone in that can be single pulled/raided with no zone trash mobs to be annoying time sinks. Part of elite level play is bypassing all that to get the cookie. So the argument is one consisting of players remembering it being one way while the other group think it is a waste of time when they can get the good stuff in 10 minutes or less.

This....is.....spot....On.

That era was extremely boring for 95% of raiders. It's way more fun now crawling to a target even though it takes a lot more time. Petitions have plummeted because of it.

Let's be honest here, the raid scene is healthier than it's ever been. Every single quake there's a host of targets going down to "smaller" guilds. More guilds are in ToV now than ever before, even if they're only after one particular target. Guilds are actually speaking with other guilds and the atmosphere seems rather cordial. The petition questing and lawyer questing has all but been erased.

Stay Strong Nilbog and Rogean, you guys have done what needed to be done to cleanse the toxicity that existed previously.