Static Group composition question

[Jibartik]

At 60 a shaman IMO does a better job at group CC while the enchanter focuses on DPS but thats just a random fact about what I think.

[Coridan]

Bard is a way better puller than anything else in the group. Unless the Paladin swaps to SK or the rogue to Monk I'd say keep the bard.

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At 60 a shaman IMO does a better job at group CC while the enchanter focuses on DPS but thats just a random fact about what I think.

With torpor only though, and enchanters are better at locking down casters.

[starkind]

I didn't read Op butt

1) war
2) rogue
3) paladin
4) ranger
5) bard
6) wizard

(Out of group wives to help pl)
1) ench
2) necro
3) druid or shm
4) cleric
5) monk
6) unicorn 🦄

[Ivory]

Where is bone knight? All fellowships need bone knight, most powerful of all adventurers.

[TomisFeline]

already said, but i agree:

all things equal, pick what you want to play

otherwise: if enchanter is advanced/skilled player: no question the bard is the choice. also you want a puller, which a bard can do top tier if they are solid

otherwise: if enchanter is expecting to have the same level of interaction with the game on their enchanter as other classes do on average EQ, pick the shaman.

this is because (later game) shaman would take over some of enchanters otherwise responsibilities.

but if you just want a simple answer:
ez bard

[Bardp1999]

Honestly, you would be better off making a Necromancer in this group by a long shot and just having the pally pull.

In a static group like this not having a necro seems crazy - great DPS, twitches, heals, roots, can help split hard rooms with snare and FD, extra rez for the cleric if the group wipes (FD)... necro would really help this group shine. 3 Priests is a slog fest higher level and the Bards warts really start to show 50+ no matter the gear level or effort level.

You are lacking DPS big time and it will show later on. Unless you plan on working the enchanter into the ground Bard or Shaman are both sub optimal IMO.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

enchanters are better at locking down casters.

yeah about casters but that AOE slow just humiliates trains.

[Keyoto]

So after some leveling we might swap another class.
Cleric
Druid
Pally
enchanter
Monk (swapping from rogue)
Still up in the air on bard or shaman for last spot after monk swap in

[eunomios]

Originally Posted by Keyoto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So after some leveling we might swap another class.
Cleric
Druid
Pally
enchanter
Monk (swapping from rogue)
Still up in the air on bard or shaman for last spot after monk swap in

There's so much utility/role overlap in this group... Shaman has Malo for the charm pet and comparable DPS to what the bard would add with song Haste on the Monk/Paladin. EDIT: some Shaman HP buffs stack with Cleric HP buffs making complete Heal more efficient... so there's that. Bard is a miserable class to main effectively (twisting instrument swaps), another consideration.

This group will NEED the charm pet for DPS if the group isn't hunting undead. Shaman can DPS with melee/frost DD/Slow[drowsy] with a Paladin Tank, while also providing STR/DEX buffs if the Cleric or Druid is Healing.