Face Diapers Don't Do Anything

[Jibartik]

Bill Maher just passed from his covid infection and he was vaccinated

[G13]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NOPE

Gravy embarrassing himself again

[GinnasP99]

Ejacalate

[Ennewi]

https://youtu.be/0T3vFCO1b3Y

[G13]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/0T3vFCO1b3Y

Considering what we know now (where the vast majority of infections occur) that was the worst possible advice

Then again, that's what you get for taking medical advice from a celebrity

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PPH said her "hero" had a racist legacy

Even Horza called her a racist

I don't understand why you are embarrassing yourself so badly trying to defend the woman. It's painful to watch.

You had to reeeeeach all the way back to 1917.. And no one has agreed or disagreed, I simply stated your context for you.

Keep reaching though, bud.

Try to have yourself a better day, friend.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering what we know now (where the vast majority of infections occur) that was the worst possible advice

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much. Meanwhile, even the religious were listening to the scientific community...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact...ndemic_on_Hajj

Historical cancellations of Hajj
Hajj (pilgrimage) has been cancelled 40 times through the history of Islam due to disease outbreaks, political disagreements, and battles.[16][17] In 930-940 CE (318-328 AH), Hajj was canceled due to the Qarmatian attack, which led to the murder of 30,000 pilgrims and the looting of the Black Stone.[18][19] In 1831, Hajj was suspended after the arrival of Indian pilgrims in Mecca led to the outbreak of a new plague, which is claimed to have killed more than half of the pilgrims in Mecca.[20] The first outbreak of cholera in Mecca occurred in 1846, killing more than 15,000 and causing a citywide plague lasting until 1850. A second outbreak of cholera happened in 1858, leading to pilgrims being quarantined inside Hajj camps in Egypt.[21][22]

Participant Selection
On 23 June 2020, Saudi Arabia announced Hajj would be held for a limited number of pilgrims who resided within the country due to the high risk of COVID-19.[25][26] The Saudi Ministry of Hajj and Umrah imposed restrictions to the type of pilgrims who can attend Hajj in 2020, only healthy Saudi residents between the ages of 20 and 50 with no COVID-19 symptoms were allowed to participate.[27][28][29] Participants had to first apply online, and preference was given to those who had not attended in the past.[30] Pilgrims were chosen from the COVID-19 recovery database, 70% of them were non-Saudi residents.[31]

Only ten thousand pilgrims were expected, as opposed to over two million in previous years.[32]

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...tional-flights

Seat proximity and increased risk

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Sitting near the ill passenger was strongly tied to increased infection risk. Eleven of the 12 infected passengers sitting one or two seats away (92%) tested positive for COVID-19, versus only 1 (13%) more than two seats away (risk ratio, 7.3).

It seems like it would be hard to take a flight or make a pilgrimage from home, on the couch. Maybe with enough g13 in one's system though...

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then again, that's what you get for taking medical advice from a celebrity

For once we agree...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52408918

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a9047191.html

...though people ought to be able to use their celebrity inasmuch as they are used by the entertainment industry, just not with impunity.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much. Meanwhile, even the religious were listening to the scientific community...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact...ndemic_on_Hajj

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6944e1_w

This is one the reasons why there were so many nursing home deaths in blue states. By transferring infected people into them on purpose, Blue State Governors basically poured gasoline into the building and lit a match

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6944e1_w

This is one the reasons why there were so many nursing home deaths in blue states. By transferring infected people into them on purpose, Blue State Governors basically poured gasoline into the building and lit a match

Larry David wasn't speaking to old people but on their behalf; he mentioned them directly, not excluding himself, as being particularly vulnerable.

However, this is from your own link...

What are the implications for public health practice?

Household transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is common and occurs early after illness onset. Persons should self-isolate immediately at the onset of COVID-like symptoms, at the time of testing as a result of a high risk exposure, or at time of a positive test result, whichever comes first. All household members, including the index case, should wear masks within shared spaces in the household.

It is not a question of families being in the same household, but their habits within the rooms and heavily trafficked areas, such as door/hallways. This ties in with the point made earlier about public spaces and maintaining one's distance, both being influenced by personal habits and culture.

Improved understanding of transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), within households could aid control measures.

persons should self-isolate immediately at the onset of COVID-like symptoms, at the time of testing as a result of a high risk exposure, or at the time of a positive test result, whichever comes first. Concurrent to isolation, all members of the household should wear a mask when in shared spaces in the household.§

Because prompt isolation of persons with COVID-19 can reduce household transmission, persons who suspect that they might have COVID-19 should isolate, stay at home, and use a separate bedroom and bathroom if feasible.

Concurrently, all household members, including the index patient, should start wearing a mask in the home, particularly in shared spaces where appropriate distancing is not possible.

Parents Eat Every Meal With Daughter Sitting in Hallway While Self-Quarantining

And to add onto the point the CDC was making...

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/50/31706

We found the relationship between livestock plants and COVID-19 transmission to be most pronounced among the largest plants, whose presence in a county is associated with a 35% higher COVID-19 case rate relative to the average coefficient for livestock plants shown in Table 1. Small and medium-sized plants were generally not found to have significant relationships with local COVID-19 transmission, suggesting that the scale of production is an important variable for industry leaders and policymakers to consider.

References

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Wang Y, Tian H, Zhang L, et al. Reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in households by face mask use, disinfection and social distancing: a cohort study in Beijing, China. BMJ Glob Health 2020;5:e002794.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procee...tes_of_America

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (often abbreviated PNAS or PNAS USA) is a peer-reviewed multidisciplinary scientific journal. It is the official journal of the National Academy of Sciences, published since 1915, and publishes original research, scientific reviews, commentaries, and letters. According to Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2019 impact factor of 9.412.[1] PNAS is the second most cited scientific journal, with more than 1.9 million cumulative citations from 2008 to 2018.[2] In the mass media, PNAS has been described variously as "prestigious",[3][4] "sedate",[5] "renowned",[6] and "high impact".[7]

[Ennewi]

But to answer your question...

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

At home. And wouldn't you know it, not infected.

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much.