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Old 09-16-2018, 04:25 PM
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I reached out to Torven awhile back on this but he couldn't help much with that far back.

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Old 10-12-2018, 07:20 PM
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...570&p=2#m16291

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My guild cleared the Juggernauts almost all the way to Trakanon this morning and every one of them that we killed conned even to me. I'm level 57, so unless this was a fluke it appears that most or all of them are level 57.

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Out of era but I believe it holds water based on previous research.

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Juggs can be mezzed. Do it all the time...haven't had one resist. GoK is a mezz... btw. And there is no 57 mez. You get a single target mezz at 54... that is Glamour of Kintaz which works to 57 and an ae mez at 52 which is Fascination...which you cant use on Juggs because it only works up to 55. Don't root park these...use GoK thats what enchanters are in the group for. Anyone with root can park but only the enchanter can turn a sticky situation into victory. Did seb tonight w/ me, a 65 shaman and a 65 sk. Had three adds while fighting a jugg. 2 more juggs and a reaver. I proceded to GoK all of them then tashed all of em then started counting in my head. Soon as i got to 45 I would GoK them all again... repeat untill all are dead. Its a little easier if one of your adds is a caster then you can ToT them. But all in all... you can do it. Its not that much mana... and if your oom at the and... just med up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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56+ mobs can NOT be stunned and you can basically tell if your adept or reaver is lvl 56 because it will keep hitting you when you try to stun it regardless of landing the spell.

You have to use GoK (glamour of kintaz?) or Shado (someone mentioned this, no clue what it is - I'ma sham)

lvl 56 caster mobs will regen about 200 mana a minute regardless of being mezzed, non agro, etc. so your chanter needs to either suck about 4k mana in 3 minutes, manasink, or chain GoK... probably a combination of manasink, GoK, and steal mana would work best.

All the chanters I've seen use GoK or manasink on these, but they weren't really exceptional.

lvl 56 adept killing can make or break your king party. You need to put these down first, unless yer fighting king... then spend the mana to mez these with GoK
So why isn't this fixed? There is no contradictory evidence that I can find that it functions as it currently does on p99.

Based on this we can also deduce that adepts and reavers had a variable spawn level which is in game currently unsure on Juggs always being 57 though.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:38 AM
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Page 2 I think not.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:45 PM
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bump found an old jewel case of vanilla,kunark, and velious installation discs. If anyone wants to take a crack at parsing the spdats lemme know.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:40 AM
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Well from the spells_us.txt that p1999 uses the 44th spell affect field says 57 so I'm kinda befuddled on why this is not working properly. Some rule must be borking it down the line is the only thing that comes to mind offhand.

Just for the sake of thoroughness......

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1691^Glamour of Kintaz^PLAYER_^^^^You are mesmerized by the Glamour of Kintaz.^ has been mesmerized by the Glamour of Kintaz.^You are no longer mesmerized.^200^0^0^0^2500^2250^2250^7^4^0^350^2^3 0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^57^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^2504^2059^-1^-1^-1^-1^1^1^1^1^-1^-1^-1^-1^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^ 0^0^0^1^31^63^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^ 254^5^0^14^-1^0^0^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^ 255^255^54^255^255^42^0^0^12^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0 ^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^40^87^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^3 5^0^0^-1^-1^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^22^134^-27^99^7^6^0^0^0^0^7^222^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^1^0^0^ 0^0^0^0^-1^0^0^0^1^0^0^1^1^!Expansion:Hole^8537
Any help devs?
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:20 AM
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Curious about this new section:
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1691^Glamour of Kintaz^PLAYER_^^^^You are mesmerized by the Glamour of Kintaz.^ has been mesmerized by the Glamour of Kintaz.^You are no longer mesmerized.^200^0^0^0^2500^2250^2250^7^4^0^350^2^3 0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^57^0 ^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^2504^2059^-1^-1^-1^-1^1^1^1^1^-1^-1^-1^-1^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^ 0^0^0^1^31^63^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^ 254^5^0^14^-1^0^0^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^ 255^255^54^255^255^42^0^0^12^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0 ^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^40^87^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^3 5^0^0^-1^-1^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^22^134^-27^99^7^6^0^0^0^0^7^222^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^1^0^0^ 0^0^0^0^-1^0^0^0^1^0^0^1^1^!Expansion:Hole^8537
Not sure what that's about, but makes me think the Hole follows 'old world rules' about not being able to mez / stun higher level mobs. Perhaps it is something to do with that?
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:45 AM
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I think that's a p1999 dev addition. There are empty fields. Probably a flagging system for the spell side of progression. The last field seems to have integers that increase as the timeline goes further along.
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:30 PM
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Not sure what that's about, but makes me think the Hole follows 'old world rules' about not being able to mez / stun higher level mobs. Perhaps it is something to do with that?
Every mob in the game over 56 follows that rule.

Maybe it's related to some of the rock golems being immune to all mezzes even though they aren't over the level cap or immune to magic. Some of the rock golems can't be mezzed even with Rapture and it's level cap is 61 and it has a -1000mr mod, they are just completely immune to all mezzes.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:06 PM
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:43 PM
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Stumbled across some additional info:
http://web.archive.org/web/200108100...&f=10&t=000637

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"Hrrm there is no aoe mez for 56+ mobs Ciladar"

Whats fascination then? I think the only time that i have ever had it up was for the first time i did shrooms (until i found it wasnt worth it and that normal mezs and glamour were best)

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