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Old 08-28-2023, 07:31 PM
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Everything happens in cycles we are natures great big C02 exhale, once we are done and transition into big bug eyed grey aliens that probably have tech that loves C02 things will return to the way they where before, this is on a few million years timescale. In 100 million years we'll barely be noticed anymore.

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some folks have alot of trouble comprehending concepts of massive scale. nothing in their lives can remotely compare to global type things. I may have an advantage working for a water utility, which itself is a massive concept, yet alot smaller than anything global. I can see the effort required to put running water in every man-made structure, which in simple terms is basically a miracle that it functions as well as it does.

people might hear in the news about a city having some nasty chemical in their water, and think to themself of thats a tragedy, i'm sitting here thinking, "it's a miracle that this doesn't happen more often"

take that understood concept of running water in millions of buildings and apply that to any other resource, and you can pretty easily start to understand that this planet-sized machine humans have built to maintain their existence, has trillions of moving parts which all must function, cannot last forever, and is a miracle it has survived just decades.

young people aren't having kids, that means the elderly will rapidly out number the young. Kids are a huge economic driver, young people with no kids spend less, meaning that they also earn less. People who need more money, usually end up earning more of it. If they aren't earning money, then they aren't paying taxes, they aren't investing, they aren't spending. We go back to the start with population growth being economic growth, population shrink means economic shrink.

Less money going into the pool, means less spent to maintain the infrastructure of any resource. Less maintence means a less functional infrastructure.

this isn't a jab at capitalism, it's just a reality-based assessment by a qualified analyst. (I do believe that anything required for survival should be provided by the government, and also available in the private sector for those who choose, but that's another topic)
oh no this is a great post AAA+ quality comin from u trexller couldn't say it better myself it is a MIRACLE

Musk is totally hoping we make more ppl to find more innovative ways of clanking the machine back toghether so to speak helper nanobots for the body of civilization, butt old ppl aren't going to do that unless u brainbot them.

I've already addressed the pathos and folly of immortality in numerious other threds tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] + Jibartik did a much better job of it last year !
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:17 PM
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some folks have alot of trouble comprehending concepts of massive scale. nothing in their lives can remotely compare to global type things. I may have an advantage working for a water utility, which itself is a massive concept, yet alot smaller than anything global. I can see the effort required to put running water in every man-made structure, which in simple terms is basically a miracle that it functions as well as it does.

people might hear in the news about a city having some nasty chemical in their water, and think to themself of thats a tragedy, i'm sitting here thinking, "it's a miracle that this doesn't happen more often"

take that understood concept of running water in millions of buildings and apply that to any other resource, and you can pretty easily start to understand that this planet-sized machine humans have built to maintain their existence, has trillions of moving parts which all must function, cannot last forever, and is a miracle it has survived just decades.

young people aren't having kids, that means the elderly will rapidly out number the young. Kids are a huge economic driver, young people with no kids spend less, meaning that they also earn less. People who need more money, usually end up earning more of it. If they aren't earning money, then they aren't paying taxes, they aren't investing, they aren't spending. We go back to the start with population growth being economic growth, population shrink means economic shrink.

Less money going into the pool, means less spent to maintain the infrastructure of any resource. Less maintence means a less functional infrastructure.

this isn't a jab at capitalism, it's just a reality-based assessment by a qualified analyst. (I do believe that anything required for survival should be provided by the government, and also available in the private sector for those who choose, but that's another topic)
Public water is a market intervention. A necessary and proper intervention, of course.

But private could deliver it much cheaper.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:19 PM
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You see in order for my point to resonate you have to give a fuck about plant and animal life, and if that's not the case, I earnestly could not give less of a fuck about your point of view.

That includes humans being happy and healthy and not just drivers of growth and innovation.
Do you eat animals?
I don’t care if you do. But it’s annoying hearing how much people love animals and yet eat them. Especially if they’re preaching.

I haven’t eaten an animal in over 18 years because I love animals
…and the idea of eating a corpse is repulsive.
But if you’re anything less than a vegan/vegetarian and you’re soap boxing about your love for animals and the planet, you might wanna self reflect a bit…. Or utilize different argument points that you don’t directly contradict.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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I have so many vegetarian/vegan memes but I’ll refrain from posting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:35 PM
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Greta Thunberg was awarded an honorary doctorate in theology.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:41 PM
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Public water is a market intervention. A necessary and proper intervention, of course.

But private could deliver it much cheaper.
true... but you can't allow something that is more or less required for survival to be controlled by such a few people.

like back in the 1800s some bigwig titans built nationwide railroad and telegraph/phone lines.

then, they turned to the US Gov't and said, "We own all of the railroads and phone lines, so now you're going to do what we say, because you can't do anything about it"

Zuckerberg and Bezos can only dream of the influence held by the rail and telecom barons.

since then the gov't has been cagey about allowing any small group to control vast resources. It's a matter of national security.

like when you shop around for an electricity supplier, you aren't shopping which product you are going to buy, you're shopping who you're going to give your money to, but this manner of privatization hasn't really changed anything, except for opening investment markets to the utilities which at the end of the day, is a good thing as it naturally stabilizes prices and opens more avenues for the gov't to shave off pieces of the money stream, which is necessary to maintain the infrastructure.

the power company in cali and hawaii for example meet their investor's demands on customer payments, gov't subsidies and other minor sources, and that's just to get by - to survive, then they don't have jack to update their infrastructure then power lines get damaged and start wildfires

the real tragedy here is that people act surprised that national resource infrastructure is in such a state of disrepair, frankly it's a miracle that it all hasn't fallen apart already.

buy seeds and mason jars, you're all gonna need to learn to can foods within your lifetime.
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Old 08-28-2023, 08:51 PM
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Utility providers are the best example of natural monopolies. Some states already impose monopolistic control of their grids.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:05 PM
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Utility providers are the best example of natural monopolies. Some states already impose monopolistic control of their grids.
it's impossible to avoid when there is only a single product for sale on a market, this is why they are "public utilities" - no private entity can be allowed to control them. This is 'necessary socialism' - or 'socialism for national security', lol that's how they should sell socialism to the conservatives.

will add, even the states with single supplier utilities have alot of regulation of what can or can't be done, how or why etc.

so it's still a company or multiple all working underneath the gov't authority, in theory anyway.

they take their 'profits' that they were allowed to earn in providing the utility, then they don't reinvest into their means of production and conveyance and Maui catches fire.

or the water lines under roads collapse, I know of a few places in my area where there are STILL wooden water lines that were installed 100+ years ago

nobody wants to pay to replace them, not even the customers who claim to be concerned with the quality of their water
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:20 PM
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Global Warming ...

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Another Hoax from the Kool-Aid drinkers
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Global Warming ...

lawl

Another Hoax from the Kool-Aid drinkers
Jordan Peterson is losing his license to practice (not that he does anymore anyway, he doesn’t need to) Psychology in Canada due to posting negatively about climate alarmism

What climate has to do with psychology is beyond me, but I’m sure it’s also his rebuttals of gender theory and generally not liking Dear Leader for Life Trudeau
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