list system flaw

[Evets]

Make it No Drop. Or make it one loot per character. Either way problem solved.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People think the /list is a "sign up, line up, come get your soloable item"

but it was supposed to be a way to enforce keeping order among people camping it

Look at this shithead.

How do you think camps work in EQ? Are you even familiar with this game? The list was created to minimize CSR work surrounding these shitshow legacy item camps.

Period.

The list was not created to force people to group together to camp rare items for players who normally wouldn't be able to hold the camp.

The list system is broken because Rogean surprisingly did not anticipate the depths that the neckbeards of P99 are willing to sink to.

If people show up to /list for an item and find a rogue or whatever just sitting there with all the mobs up then the rogue should be removed from the list. There is no way in hell that it makes any sense for the newcomers to have to farm the item for the rogue just because he was there first.

If the list was not in place and this same scenario took place, the rogue would lose his "camp" because he wasn't actually camping anything. The list needs to be tweaked for sure.

Now, if I showed up to a /list camp and there was some stranger just sitting there waiting for me to kill the PH for them because they can't do it themself? I would just leave or log out. I wouldn't care enough to try to wait them out but I certainly wouldn't camp the item for them. Here's another thing too: I would never even consider showing up to a /list camp if I was not capable of soloing it. It would never cross my mind to just go to a /list camp and wait for people to show up and clear it for me. I think that is much more despicable behavior than the people who refuse to help them to keep the list moving.

There is a huge difference from live back in classic and P99 now. The difference is that there is a massive amount of entitlement NOW. Funny since I would think that people would have been more entitled back when they were paying a monthly subscription.

The whining will continue no matter what happens but I would like to see some fair changes made to the list system to cut down on the amount of leeches who think they can just show up and /AFK their way to a legacy item.

[cobaltblack]

looking forward to the PVP enabled classic timeline server PINK99

All these problems won't exist on pink99.

[Purplefluffy]

Originally Posted by Donkey Hotay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Four people are refusing to cooperate to get pixels in an MMO.

The list system isn't broken. The players are.

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[Gelric]

Maybe Staff should require that you are in a group and that you engage the mob. If you are not in the group or you do not engage you are removed from the list and cannot loot the item and the item poofs.

Just because a class is not designed to solo doesn't mean they should not be able to get the item. Being a druid I rarely group but if I want an item I should do what it takes to get it.

Being lazy or selfish is a choice that can be remedied with a few changes and penalties.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by Gelric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because a class is not designed to solo doesn't mean they should not be able to get the item. Being a druid I rarely group but if I want an item I should do what it takes to get it.

Just because rogues aren't designed to cast snares and AOE nukes doesn't mean they should not be able to quad kite!!!

Just because bards don't get double attack doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to quad hit!

Just because druids don't get complete heal doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to complete heal!

This mentality of entitlement must come from WoW players. Absolutely ridiculous. I think you need to complain to the original EQ devs, not the P99 staff for creating a list so that they can try to minimize their interactions with idiots who cannot come to an agreement.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by Chocolope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

feel the bern. bless socialism.

Underrated Post right here!

Real life political lessons should be being learned at these camps if people have the sense to recognize what is happening.

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Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because rogues aren't designed to cast snares and AOE nukes doesn't mean they should not be able to quad kite!!!

Just because bards don't get double attack doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to quad hit!

Just because druids don't get complete heal doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to complete heal!

This mentality of entitlement must come from WoW players. Absolutely ridiculous. I think you need to complain to the original EQ devs, not the P99 staff for creating a list so that they can try to minimize their interactions with idiots who cannot come to an agreement.

But rogues CAN quad kite with SOW pots and Red Wood Wands. EZ

For fucks sake we didn't need a /list for the thex dagger quest. All the smelly asslings lined up in an orderly manner.

[Sporkotron]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Underrated Post right here!

Real life political lessons should be being learned at these camps if people have the sense to recognize what is happening.

What? That with no government interference you’d have a small handful of people hoarding all the resources to themselves. So you need to do something and sometimes whatever the first thing you try isn’t fully thought out so you need to take a few stabs at it?

[lituviel]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at this shithead.

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If people show up to /list for an item and find a rogue or whatever just sitting there with all the mobs up then the rogue should be removed from the list. There is no way in hell that it makes any sense for the newcomers to have to farm the item for the rogue just because he was there first.

If the list was not in place and this same scenario took place, the rogue would lose his "camp" because he wasn't actually camping anything. The list needs to be tweaked for sure.

Now, if I showed up to a /list camp and there was some stranger just sitting there waiting for me to kill the PH for them because they can't do it themself? I would just leave or log out. I wouldn't care enough to try to wait them out but I certainly wouldn't camp the item for them.

Do what I say but not what I do.

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are assholes for not helping him and keeping the line moving.

Or are you just insulting people for free there ?