If you plan to camp Stormfeather

[Thiefboy777]

Ya with timers like that, they were intended to be rare and not camped... the only way to capture that feeling would be a random spawn point and variance that spanned the entire 19-72 hr window.

[Taminy]

Well I guess I'm not getting him until winter or summer break.

Originally Posted by Thiefboy777 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya with timers like that, they were intended to be rare and not camped... the only way to capture that feeling would be a random spawn point and variance that spanned the entire 19-72 hr window.

I've suggested that if we're going to use variance we should use a complete variance....... Like the chance for a mob to pop every tick (with a very very small chance) so it could go 2 hours or 2 months before some mobs pop.

[topgun1027]

Well Hermionie got Stormfeather early this morning when Tephin was the one first in line for it so this didn't work out too well did it!

[dustysr06]

im just confused on how the camp is expected to be handed off? i mean are we gonna form a line to dictate who's next since the person 'camping' him is obviously going to be afk until the window opens therefore making a 'list' a complete impossibility?

Is the current camp holder going to be able to just pass the camp to whomever they choose?

[Nadril]

Originally Posted by dustysr06 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im just confused on how the camp is expected to be handed off? i mean are we gonna form a line to dictate who's next since the person 'camping' him is obviously going to be afk until the window opens therefore making a 'list' a complete impossibility?

Is the current camp holder going to be able to just pass the camp to whomever they choose?

It's unbelievable that 2 decades later people are making this game way harder than it has to be. Nearly 20 years ago with many more servers and a much higher population not even half the amount of issues were brought up as today with you people. This server is like the melting pot for halfwit scumbags that don't understand common courtesy or reputation, which was a huge part of classic EQ.

If somebody is at the camp, its camped. If nobody is there, its not camped and its yours. It's literally that simple. Just because your mad that somebody is there and you know hes popping soon or blah blah blah doesn't mean you should behave like an imbecile.

[topgun1027]

Originally Posted by Nadril [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's unbelievable that 2 decades later people are making this game way harder than it has to be. Nearly 20 years ago with many more servers and a much higher population not even half the amount of issues were brought up as today with you people. This server is like the melting pot for halfwit scumbags that don't understand common courtesy or reputation, which was a huge part of classic EQ.

If somebody is at the camp, its camped. If nobody is there, its not camped and its yours. It's literally that simple. Just because your mad that somebody is there and you know hes popping soon or blah blah blah doesn't mean you should behave like an imbecile.

Take that negativity to RNF .. The confusion is there is no official post on it which should of been done already. There was a working process already established.

So the first spawn that Sirken said goes to whoever was there first. In this case was Tephin and it did not go to him and yes he was there awake. If a GM is going to show up and enforce a new ruling, it needs to be made a rule for all to see on the forums.

[William_Munny15]

I think Herm let tephin loot the map piece, because some douche Mackie waltzed up with his "I will FTE without logic or fairness" mantra while tephin was there FD. Pras Hermionie

[paulgiamatti]

Yep. Hermionie is my ranger alt. I've now been at Stormfeather for 32 hours. Get your popcorn ready.

[Sun Sep 13 03:57:06 2015] Mackie says, 'imo until they officially remove the FTE message I'm going for it'
[Sun Sep 13 03:57:49 2015] You say, 'pls don't, i've been here for 17 hrs'
[Sun Sep 13 03:58:07 2015] Mackie says, 'you have proof of that claim?'
[Sun Sep 13 03:58:24 2015] Mackie says, 'I wanna see 17 hours of video =P'

This is when I got my insta-click ready to take the FTE, with the intention of giving it to Tephin who was AFK.

[Sun Sep 13 05:15:49 2015] Stormfeather engages Hermionie!
[Sun Sep 13 05:15:54 2015] Stormfeather tries to claw YOU, but misses!
[Sun Sep 13 05:15:56 2015] Stormfeather was hit by non-melee for 60 points of damage.
[Sun Sep 13 05:15:56 2015] Stormfeather's feet become entwined.
[Sun Sep 13 05:16:26 2015] Mackie says, 'ib4 she gets banned'
[Sun Sep 13 05:16:31 2015] You say, 'i'll give tephin a min or two'
[Sun Sep 13 05:16:56 2015] Mackie says, 'just kill it lol'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:00 2015] Mackie says, 'you've gave him plenty of time'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:04 2015] Mackie says, 'grats on FTE'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:22 2015] You say, 'it's a camp now dude'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:25 2015] Mackie says, 'nope'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:30 2015] You say, 'if tephin gets back now''
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:32 2015] You say, 'it's his'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:35 2015] Mackie says, 'lol'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:37 2015] Mackie says, 'you're insane'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:45 2015] Mackie says, 'you give him more than 10-20 seconds and you're just being way too nice'
[Sun Sep 13 05:17:50 2015] Mackie says, 'just kill it'
[Sun Sep 13 05:18:09 2015] You say, 'he put up a valiant sock, i'd be happy to see him get it'
[Sun Sep 13 05:18:11 2015] Mackie says, 'you're stalling'
[Sun Sep 13 05:18:23 2015] Mackie says, 'I'll give you 30 seconds before I kill the damn thing myself'

Tephin gets back from AFK and begins killing Stormfeather.

[Sun Sep 13 05:19:16 2015] Tephin crushes Stormfeather for 65 points of damage.
[Sun Sep 13 05:19:20 2015] You say, 'grats bro'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:28 2015] You say, 'if it wasn't for me mackie would've taken your spawn'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:32 2015] You say, 'you're welcome'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:33 2015] Mackie says, 'absolutely'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:37 2015] Mackie says, 'FTE message is still in'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:39 2015] Tephin thanks Hermionie heartily.
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:41 2015] Mackie says, 'there's nothing official yet'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:48 2015] Mackie says, 'Good luck folks'
[Sun Sep 13 05:20:49 2015] You say, 'you're such an idiot'
[Sun Sep 13 05:21:02 2015] Mackie says, 'nah I'm just not a peasant that folds at some temper tantrum GM'
[Sun Sep 13 05:21:11 2015] Tephin says, 'Hermionie its all yours'
[Sun Sep 13 05:23:34 2015] Tephin says, 'Good luck Hermionie. Thanks for that.'
[Sun Sep 13 05:23:40 2015] You say, 'no prob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] gratz'

Mackie, by the way, is a member of <Anonymous>.

[dustysr06]

Originally Posted by Nadril [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's unbelievable that 2 decades later people are making this game way harder than it has to be. Nearly 20 years ago with many more servers and a much higher population not even half the amount of issues were brought up as today with you people. This server is like the melting pot for halfwit scumbags that don't understand common courtesy or reputation, which was a huge part of classic EQ.

If somebody is at the camp, its camped. If nobody is there, its not camped and its yours. It's literally that simple. Just because your mad that somebody is there and you know hes popping soon or blah blah blah doesn't mean you should behave like an imbecile.

There wasnt a blueprint for the path to pixeldom 20 years ago either, mobs like this could be found wandering the zone that had been up for hours, if not days--simply because of lack of informed players, thats obviously no longer the case. A good amount of p99's player-base are 'hardcore' neck-beard types with incredible pixel lust. There was a guy corpsing tranix crowns for like 4 months, by rule-lawyering 'camp' status at Tranix. So if you think that people arent going to always try and use loopholes and rule lawyer for mobs/camps like this, you're very naive... just look at the logs hermoine posted above, thats within 24 hours of a GM ruling on a mob that the players had otherwise already had an agreement to be FTE (yellow-text already included mind you)- which Sirken over-ruled, apparently?

Has Nil/rog made public what the rules are going to be moving forward yet? Its really weird to me, for the staff to always promote player-made diplomacy, then turn around and do something like this because of 1 instance, in an arguably fishy scenario, of 1 player who doesnt have the mental capacity to simply leave logs running to get a timer for the mob he needs and 'camp' it for the very short window and FTE for it like the 20+ people before him?

Whats the difference in Stormfeather and Lodizal? They are part of the same exact quest, located in the same zone, on the same spawn timer, both have FTE messages, etc... nobody is in an uproar over Lodi tho, which is REQUIRED to even be bothered to deal with stormfeather in the first place lol....

Flame me all you want, but dont base your judgements against me from some doctored up RNF post you read earlier, im just trying to get clarification - changing this from FTE to a camp has increased the drama surrounding this mob already 10 fold, and its only going to get worse as velious wears on, and 'Loot Rights' sales become more prevalent.

[William_Munny15]

Lol at "you have proof of that claim?" you know at that point the lawyering was going to start. I think Mackie even posted in the rnf thread about stormfeather saying he won't respect sirken's decision, and only nilbog or rogean's word matters. Then come to find out nilbog feels it should be a camp too?