That quake timing. . .

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that they could not come to mediation agreement despite numerous offers is what makes it frivolous. Asking that FR/AG is banned from TOV for the next cycle/quake is what makes it frivolous.

friv·o·lous
/ˈfrivələs/
adjective
not having any serious purpose or value.

well, 1 offer anyways. guilds in the past have been issued zone-wide suspensions for training. this was the appropriate result that a lot of KWSM thought should be applied given the severity and obvious recklessness of the train. Obviously AG / F felt differently. Just because we had to turn to the judge because we couldn't settle in mediation doesn't make the dispute frivolous. It's not frivolous to be wrong, which the GM's clarified we were w/r/t expectations for the consequences of that train. No big.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

frivolous

I think the word you're looking for here is consequential.

[kanis999]

Originally Posted by Praxcthius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Riot has several ex officers from kittens.

And I consider those people sellouts and traitors.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the word you're looking for here is consequential.

GMs clearly disagreed with you here.

[xdrcfrx]

they also decided sua sponte to suspend Incubo all on their own. So maybe ask him to climb down off that cross that those mean mean kittens put him on?

[Caball]

Welcome to end game raiding. Most of you sound so petty and immersed, try show this thread to anyone who doesn’t play this game and is a normal human being and they will probably think a lot of people here are acting like entitled twats. I’ve raided hardcore here for a year and 1/2, done every pull/train up/fight played every class. Shit like this happens almost every week, get over it. Maybe you can see how the raid scene can become toxic when people just cannot move past obvious mistakes and continue to hold grudges for YEARS against others in a small community where everyone just wants to play a game they loved from childhood/teenagers years. Learn to let things go and maybe take a break here and there, you’ll be much happier.

Funny watching these smaller guilds have so much hate in their hearts already, and you’ve only experienced a small portion of raid content on an infrequent basis. Maybe you can see how the toxicity can build up between people who raid against eachother multiple days a week for years. Grow up and if you find yourself posting in RnF continuously take a step back from this game and find something else to make you happy for awhile. The raid scene has never been a happy go lucky feel good place and it absolutely never will because people play here to compete. Seems nice after one week of the “hardcores” gone but soon enough all those casual players will become the hardcore ones given the chance and vacancy, you are no better than anyone else get off your high horses. If you can’t deal with that you’re playing on the wrong server. Cheers

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to end game raiding. Most of you sound so petty and immersed, try show this thread to anyone who doesn’t play this game and is a normal human being and they will probably think a lot of people here are acting like entitled twats. I’ve raided hardcore here for a year and 1/2, done every pull/train up/fight played every class. Shit like this happens almost every week, get over it. Maybe you can see how the raid scene can become toxic when people just cannot move past obvious mistakes and continue to hold grudges for YEARS against others in a small community where everyone just wants to play a game they loved from childhood/teenagers years. Learn to let things go and maybe take a break here and there, you’ll be much happier.

Funny watching these smaller guilds have so much hate in their hearts already, and you’ve only experienced a small portion of raid content on an infrequent basis. Maybe you can see how the toxicity can build up between people who raid against eachother multiple days a week for years. Grow up and if you find yourself posting in RnF continuously take a step back from this game and find something else to make you happy for awhile. The raid scene has never been a happy go lucky feel good place and it absolutely never will because people play here to compete. Seems nice after one week of the “hardcores” gone but soon enough all those casual players will become the hardcore ones given the chance and vacancy, you are no better than anyone else get off your high horses. If you can’t deal with that you’re playing on the wrong server. Cheers

good post, cheers mate

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to end game raiding. Most of you sound so petty and immersed, try show this thread to anyone who doesn’t play this game and is a normal human being and they will probably think a lot of people here are acting like entitled twats. I’ve raided hardcore here for a year and 1/2, done every pull/train up/fight played every class. Shit like this happens almost every week, get over it. Maybe you can see how the raid scene can become toxic when people just cannot move past obvious mistakes and continue to hold grudges for YEARS against others in a small community where everyone just wants to play a game they loved from childhood/teenagers years. Learn to let things go and maybe take a break here and there, you’ll be much happier.

Funny watching these smaller guilds have so much hate in their hearts already, and you’ve only experienced a small portion of raid content on an infrequent basis. Maybe you can see how the toxicity can build up between people who raid against eachother multiple days a week for years. Grow up and if you find yourself posting in RnF continuously take a step back from this game and find something else to make you happy for awhile. The raid scene has never been a happy go lucky feel good place and it absolutely never will because people play here to compete. Seems nice after one week of the “hardcores” gone but soon enough all those casual players will become the hardcore ones given the chance and vacancy, you are no better than anyone else get off your high horses. If you can’t deal with that you’re playing on the wrong server. Cheers

Good post

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to end game raiding. Most of you sound so petty and immersed, try show this thread to anyone who doesn’t play this game and is a normal human being and they will probably think a lot of people here are acting like entitled twats. I’ve raided hardcore here for a year and 1/2, done every pull/train up/fight played every class. Shit like this happens almost every week, get over it. Maybe you can see how the raid scene can become toxic when people just cannot move past obvious mistakes and continue to hold grudges for YEARS against others in a small community where everyone just wants to play a game they loved from childhood/teenagers years. Learn to let things go and maybe take a break here and there, you’ll be much happier.

Funny watching these smaller guilds have so much hate in their hearts already, and you’ve only experienced a small portion of raid content on an infrequent basis. Maybe you can see how the toxicity can build up between people who raid against eachother multiple days a week for years. Grow up and if you find yourself posting in RnF continuously take a step back from this game and find something else to make you happy for awhile. The raid scene has never been a happy go lucky feel good place and it absolutely never will because people play here to compete. Seems nice after one week of the “hardcores” gone but soon enough all those casual players will become the hardcore ones given the chance and vacancy, you are no better than anyone else get off your high horses. If you can’t deal with that you’re playing on the wrong server. Cheers

KWSM pretty well over it at this point - it's the AG / F folks who are still Very Concerned (tm).

I say lets test out your hypothesis. How long should you all stay suspended before KWSM / TSS / DB / AEGIS / LH are at each other's throats?

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

KWSM pretty well over it at this point - it's the AG / F folks who are still Very Concerned (tm).

I say lets test out your hypothesis. How long should you all stay suspended before KWSM / TSS / DB / AEGIS / LH are at each other's throats?

But that would mean Riot stays suspended too. We can’t have that.