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If you check Magelo drop rates for every classic named mob with a two item common/rare loot table the spread is generally 20-40% Rare and 60-80% Common drops. The Manastone seems to be artificially rare compared to the rest of the comparable drops in vanilla EverQuest and should be adjusted accordingly.
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23 list hours for my manastone and an unusually high number of PH frog spawns.
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If you are farming both servers at the same time like I am currently the % drop rate is actually right inline with classic values .
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No need to troll here. I've been the only person camping EE on teal for the last 3 hours.
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We need more substantial evidence to consider any changes.
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All the quotes about drop rate appear to be after the removal.
The one guy who talks about spending 24 hours after nerf to find it not dropping there said he was told 1 in 8 was the worst rate he heard before removal. I still don’t believe that this one item was unique compared to the rest of the 100s of classic named mobs in vanilla EQ. Every other classic named mob from Dvinn to Magi Rokyl that has a common/rare drop table varies between a 80/20 to a 60/40 ratio, with 75/25 being a common value accepted to be the likely value if you had large enough data samples to remove RNG skewing present in the small data samples available in posts or magelo data. There really aren’t any examples of Uber rare drops in vanilla EQ. That was a Kunark Innovation. I think finding anything definitive on a drop from a 35 mob removed 6 months into EQ beyond the common/rare indicator is unlikely. Which is why I think it following the pattern of every other named mob from classic makes sense.
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Also agree with what Dald is saying, It seems that the "ultra rare" classification was added to manastone, but ultra rare items aren't around until Kunark, and they are found on mobs that drop 3 or more items I believe.
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Can Devs or content update people who have access to the database share with us what the current drop rate is for the Manastone?
I’m curious what it’s set to currently. Sounds like it’s around 5% from all reports coming out of the Manastone camp. Coincidentally I’d also be curious to know what the next lowest drop rate from a named mob with 2 items is from classic in our database. Perhaps Arch Magus SMR or Frenzied FBSS? Going off Magelo both of these items are 20% drop rate (it’s important to understand when looking at Magelo drop percentages, these include kills from the updated live level 85-110 versions of the zone which have different drops with the same mob name so it compiles them all under the same mob. So you have to take the total of the two classic items and divide by the count of each to get an accurate drop chance). Manastone should be set to 20% to match the other rare items from LGuk. Classic while on its face seems very unique with the quests available and zonewide rare spawns, the drop rate for named mobs seems very consistent across the entirety of vanilla EQ. The only exceptions are for mobs that drop 3 items (Skarlorn, Estrella, Ishva Mal, maybe one more I’m forgetting?). But every mob with 2 drops has the chance for each set to around 80-60% common and 40-20% rare. Even in the case of mobs like ghoul cavalier, ghoul assassin, or shin lord, where one of the drops is a class specific item, usable by only a single class, those rare weapons are 20% drop chance.
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