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[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by akagami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There’s no conspiracy here.

Which is exactly what people in a conspiracy would want us to think!!

Originally Posted by Purplefluffy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They have been rotating people. Indeed, the response in this thread states as much when it was said it was an required item for their guild members in order to gain access to other items.

Akagami and OP said they rotate people, Akagami merely denied that it is planned ahead of time.

Originally Posted by Polixa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why on earth would there be a rule that someone camping an item should get to personally choose who is the next person to come over and camp the item once they are done?

Why on earth should there be a rule either way? Stop being such an over-socialized bugman.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my day, skill was about having the discipline to let the MT establish aggro first, and then everyone started attacking, and managed their own aggro by knowing when to turn off auto-attack if the mob started flipping. What's this millenial root net/mallet crap anyway?

That's because "recharging" was essentially a non-utillitzed mechanic during Classic. The ubiquity of item-recharging on the P99 server is completely nonsensical. Instead of letting skill prevail it gives a huge advantage to the guild or guilds with the greatest number of people available to camp raid clickies. ALSO the guild(s) w/ the greatest amount of coin in their guild banks!

NERF RECHARGING AND FIX THE PROBLEM!!!!

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anyone with a maxed level blue character should be banned from green, it's the only way to be sure these disgusting weirdos dont ruin it

I always rallied for a "Green" server launching alongside Velious on Blue. Would've kept the majority of the hardcore neckbears on Blue to farm their Velious Pixels.

Instead we let Velious run for what, 3 years? before launching Green. All those neckbeards are at/near BIS on Blue so now theyre shittin' up Green/Teal.

[Tilien]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the part that I'm calling bullshit on. You are saying that if I have a camp and somebody asks me if there's a list I'm not allowed to say "nope, and I'm not going to keep one either."

Buuuuullshit.

You're allowed to say "nope" and by saying nope it means you forfeit your ability to pick whose next, that's all.

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always rallied for a "Green" server launching alongside Velious on Blue. Would've kept the majority of the hardcore neckbears on Blue to farm their Velious Pixels.

Instead we let Velious run for what, 3 years? before launching Green. All those neckbeards are at/near BIS on Blue so now theyre shittin' up Green/Teal.

whats funnier is that they are doing "required clickies" to 50 man raid classic content that was casually cleared for months by like 11 people during classic red99

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Tilien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're allowed to say "nope" and by saying nope it means you forfeit your ability to pick whose next, that's all.

Nothing that I have ever seen leads me to believe that this is true, and the fact that this is the first I've ever heard of anything remotely like this after playing off and on here for almost seven years suggests that you are pulling this interpretation out of a place lacking in sunlight.

[Tilien]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing that I have ever seen leads me to believe that this is true, and the fact that this is the first I've ever heard of anything remotely like this after playing off and on here for almost seven years suggests that you are pulling this interpretation out of a place lacking in sunlight.

Please refer to the link that explicitly states this ruling.

[Vallaen]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings#Camp_Waiting_Lists

Pretty clear-cut, and these exact rules have been around in one form or another for quite some time. I really need to compile a "Project 1999: Errata and other extraneous information" post to put all this stuff. For now, this will have to do:

Camp holder has the right to pass the camp to whoever he would like. However, and this is very important, two things must happen in order for this to be a legitimate hand-off:

1) The player being handed the camp must be present around the time the first placeholder spawns after the last holder of the camp has gotten his or her item in hand. The person handing off the camp must stay at the spawn until the next person in line arrives, if that person is on their way to take the camp. There is a little leeway here, and we refuse to set an exact timer on how long the placeholder can be up before the camp is forfeited, but in general it should never be for more than a couple minutes or so. We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the person coming in to take the camp in these situations as CSR staff, so waiting a bit longer will never hurt. W

2) The person holding the camp cannot mislead you, or change his mind after telling you who is next. Something that no one ever does (and I will never understand why) is to specifically address the camp holder, asking who is next or if you can be next. The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is - if he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you. It is an automatic forfeit if this occurs. If you ask to be the next camp holder and are told yes, the camp holder may not later retract or change this agreement and attempt to hand the camp off to someone else - it's yours once he has gotten his item or moved on from the camp.

Something else important to note about handing off camps - in particular, popular ones, but this applies to any camp that becomes contested. If you are solo camping, once you attain the item you were waiting for (an AC ring, for example) you are done camping that mob. The person coming to take the camp had better be prepared at this point in order to come eliminate the very next placeholder spawn in order to "stake his claim" on the mob. You cannot work wacky corpse lines on lore items in order to grab multiple items in the same "camp session" if there are others waiting to take the camp. Please be aware that we reserve the right to apply this same ruling to any camp if we deem it necessary, including camps with multiple players.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Tilien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please refer to the link that explicitly states this ruling.

I believe that your interpretation of the rules is adding something that isn't there. Like I said, nothing that I've seen indicates that a person who isn't being deceptive loses the right to hand the camp off to whomever they choose simply because somebody else wants the camp way early.

I would need to see a GM specifically say that if somebody asks me if there's a list right after I log in and take an empty camp and I say "nope and I'm going to be here all day so I'm not keeping one" then I lose the right to choose who I hand the camp off to seven hours after that.

[Tilien]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe that your interpretation of the rules is adding something that isn't there. Like I said, nothing that I've seen indicates that a person who isn't being deceptive loses the right to hand the camp off to whomever they choose simply because somebody else wants the camp way early.

I would need to see a GM specifically say that if somebody asks me if there's a list right after I log in and take an empty camp and I say "nope and I'm going to be here all day so I'm not keeping one" then I lose the right to choose who I hand the camp off to seven hours after that.

Another poster copied and pasted the text from my link I'll add it again:

"The camp holder does need to reveal to you who the next intended camp holder is - if he doesn't, you may ask to be next and your claim will be valid unless he reveals the next person immediately. This person cannot change after the camp holder has "revealed" the next person to take the camp to you"