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Old 06-15-2019, 02:29 PM
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Default Shaman Root rotting - I feel like I'm being inefficient

Hello. I have a 34 shaman, and I've been root rotting things for fun and profit and xp and all that. My normal routine is send Fido in, enstill, malo, disease, poison, then call off fido and hang out, refresh poison once or so, and maybe send fido back in for the last couple of %hp. I will normally cann a few times while sitting to try and get some mana back

I feel like I'm not being very efficient with this, and I'm not entirely sure why. I often find myself going through almost a full bar of mana in killing a single blue mob (even non-healers). Is root rotting just not terribly efficient just yet, or is there something else I should be doing?

Also, I find that Enstill has been breaking early and even getting resisted a lot...should I maybe do pet-malo-enstill instead?

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Old 06-15-2019, 02:32 PM
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34 Shaman should be using a pet and slowing/tanking for the pet. Maybe toss in a dot or two. You'll want to ditch the caster gear and focus on ac/hp. Root rotting at that level for a shaman is more of a change-of-pace thing. It's not terribly efficient. Face tanking for the pet will always be more efficient than root rotting, but once you have an epic and torpor root rotting is doable.

Also, stop using enstill. Root all day every day. You don't waste mana from early breaks and early recasts.
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Old 06-15-2019, 03:31 PM
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34 Shaman should be using a pet and slowing/tanking for the pet. Maybe toss in a dot or two. You'll want to ditch the caster gear and focus on ac/hp. Root rotting at that level for a shaman is more of a change-of-pace thing. It's not terribly efficient. Face tanking for the pet will always be more efficient than root rotting, but once you have an epic and torpor root rotting is doable.

Also, stop using enstill. Root all day every day. You don't waste mana from early breaks and early recasts.

See, I was told the exact opposite and that I should stop slow tanking as soon as I got 34 and use enstill, so now I don't know who to believe.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:05 PM
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See, I was told the exact opposite and that I should stop slow tanking as soon as I got 34 and use enstill, so now I don't know who to believe.
You should not listen to whoever told you that anymore.
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Old 06-15-2019, 02:39 PM
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Why aren’t shamans charm killing until atleast 40? With canni heals sow and charm animal i would have a field day
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:00 AM
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Why aren’t shamans charm killing until atleast 40? With canni heals sow and charm animal i would have a field day
My shaman is early 30s, I had success using invis to go to the low level wolf pit in permafrost, then pulling the large dire wolf to where I was going to fight and charming there. The mob is a level 24 spawn I think, making it the perfect pet. Really chewed through goblins good!

On live in my 30s I used a summoned pet, turned off taunt, grabbed mana regen buffs and aggro kited several lions at a time with dots just outside OT outpost.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:30 PM
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Pwc, haste item, self haste and regen.

Pull with slow and just beat on with pet. Once mob flees let pet finish while you canni back the mana/regen. You can none stop kill until you reach 45 and get a JBB.

Then move to freeport and do guards to 50 just using root and click. After that you can do ghosts in TT with JBB and root until 54.
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Old 06-17-2019, 03:28 AM
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After that you can do ghosts in TT with JBB and root until 54.
Which ghosts? I camped the ghosts near the Emperor Ganek ruins on my necro and started getting a lot of green cons by level 50. Are there camps with higher level ghosts?

The xp there was great. I flew from 47-50 really quickly.
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:13 AM
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Why aren’t shamans charm killing until atleast 40? With canni heals sow and charm animal i would have a field day
I don’t think many leveling shamans even think about doing so to be honest. I enjoyed charming on my shaman a lot until the final spell (stops around the level of hunting the higher level of OT) is no longer viable. Charming on the shaman I always found most profitable duoing with a ranger/Druid for longer duration snare. I did have some success with a dedicated healing cleric and once with an enchanter.

With the buffs, regen, heal and slows a shaman brings to the table, it’s much more efficient to buff and heal a pet and snag a partner a bit lower level than yourself and just split the cost with a person vs losing half to the pet. Rangers (especially non twink) are generally happy for the opportunity and I just had them chain pull while I babysat the pet. Ensnare on breaks and toss piddly ranger heals. If Druid I’d ask them to do similar on top of finding a pet if their own. This allowed me to keep my Med and canni-dance time as high as possible for recharge slows and heals.

Done properly charming is much faster than melee soloing or root rotting and it doesn’t take much gear. It’s doable naked.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:42 PM
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Definitely slow tank until JBB at 45. I just started root rotting instead of primarily JBB at 55.
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