The Historical Nonfiction Thread

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we can learn a lot from history.

Well shucks on that we agree, as its the point of this thread.

On the Indonesian topic, they have been, and continue to be, shockingly barbaric as a society. They are actively ethnically cleansing their portion of papua even as we speak, and transferring non-indigenous Javanese and Sumatrans over

Bad bad stuff

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: lord of the ring-esque book about ancient egyptian but entirely based on reality. The Egyptian by Mika Waltari.

Sounds interesting, I’ll give it a look

[zodium]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the Indonesian topic, they have been, and continue to be, shockingly barbaric as a society. They are actively ethnically cleansing their portion of papua even as we speak, and transferring non-indigenous Javanese and Sumatrans over

Bad bad stuff

i thought this was the historical nonfiction thread.

[Kaveh]

I’ll just stay on topic and recommend Philip and Alexander again

Next week I’ll start recommending some Anglo-Saxon stuff

[zodium]

peep this review of the jakarta method.

Originally Posted by TJM Review

Ask most people what they associate with Copacabana in Brazil and Seminyak in Bali, and it’s likely to be a tropical idyll. However, The Jakarta Method, the new book by Vincent Bevins, might just change that. These palm-fringed sands take on a darker aspect when one learns of their prominent roles in a transcontinental web of political intrigue, mass killings and the assertion of US hegemony, with Seminyak playing host to mass graves and Copacabana a recurring location for far-right agitation.

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Some of the episodes featured will be more familiar than others, with the Indonesian Mass Killings of 1965-66 having recently been brought to global attention by the critically acclaimed 2012 documentary, The Act of Killing. While Joshua Oppenheimer’s film placed those responsible for the killings in the public eye, this book depicts the victims themselves in a way that emphasises their humanity, a quality that was so long denied. For example, one of the people presented in the book is a young Indonesian woman seeking her fortune in the capital Jakarta, only to find herself marked out for punishment due to suspected Communist ties simply for being in a union. Due to this, she experiences years of torture, rape and imprisonment as well as ostracism in the present day.

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Alongside these personal stories is the bigger picture of the Partai Komunis Indonesia (PKI) – then the third largest Communist Party in the world (and largest non-ruling) with up to three million members – being crushed almost overnight, resulting in the estimated deaths of up to one million people. What is particularly notable about this is that rather than the costly ‘boots on the ground’ intervention seen in Vietnam, this was carried out by domestic players: in this case, the Indonesian armed forces and political vigilantes, with significant CIA/US State Department support. This ‘scorched earth’ approach to the complete annihilation of opponents via proxies, whether through mass murder or campaigns of terror, led to the titular ‘Jakarta Method’ of suppression and extermination being exported around the world, with the CIA often acting as the common element in these atrocities.

[magnetaress]

Plato on point.