The Historical Nonfiction Thread

[Kaveh]

Some things you guys should read since you no longer believe in your civilization:

Donald Kagan’s The Peloponnesian War. This guy is the principal scholar of this period in Greek history, and Thucydides’ account of that war, where democracy and oligarchy came into conflict, characterized James Madison’s belief that factionalism could fragment the nascent United States.

It’s a good book in its own right and covers a fascinating period that, shockingly, you guys aren’t really educated about in school anymore, and 400 of the 500 pages are very entertaining. It somewhat drags at the end, but it’s very important. Honestly, so is Thucydides’ eyewitness account, but I don’t think any of you would get through that

Adrian Goldworthy’s Philip and Alexander. All of you know Alexander, but most of you aren’t familiar with the genius of Philip. This chronicle will take you through some of the most important moments in the “Great man of history theory,” but you might find that Philip was the truly innovative and important person in creating the Hellenistic world

I’m gonna go with another Adrian Goldworthy title. The Fall of Carthage addresses all three Punic wars, to the minutiae. A+

As an aside, all of you should teach your children Latin, piano, and chess. Thanks and God bless

[Mblake81]

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Could be worthwhile ideas if you plan on having children.

If not, yolo motherfuckers

[magnetaress]

Cool sounding books.

[Gwaihir]

Are you aware that, while the large majority of westerners idolize Plato as being an agnostic philosopher this couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, The Republic provided the basis for modern fascist and socialist projects, including the elimination of marriage and the family, compulsory education, the use of eugenics by the state, and the employment of deceptive propaganda methods.

According to Plato, "all these women shall be wives in common to all the men, and not one of them shall live privately with any man; the children too should be held in common so that no parents shall know which is his own offspring, and no child shall know his parent"

also
"the best men must cohabit with the best women in as many cases as possible and the worst with the worst in the fewest, and that the offspring of the one must be reared and that of the other not, if the flock is to be as perfect as possible"
"the offspring of the inferior, and any of those of the other sort who are born defective, they will properly dispose of in secret, so that no one will know what has become of them. that is, the condition of preserving the purity of the guardians' breed."



The Republicpg 423e-424a


Totally worth idolizing over Jesus. *eyeroll*066_plato_result_result.jpg

[Kaveh]

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Could be worthwhile ideas if you plan on having children.

If not, yolo motherfuckers

All of those books are still worth reading. And you should have kids, you gonna let the foreigners like me win? Unamerican buddy

[strongNpretty]

Man my family had no interest in teaching me an instrument... And chess I don't think i learned to play until my mid 20's? I had rebound to play as a kid.. My fingers still hurt from flicking those metal balls as a kid..

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[magnetaress]

the best men must cohabit with the best women in as many cases as possible and the worst with the worst in the fewest, and that the offspring of the one must be reared and that of the other not, if the flock is to be as perfect as possible"

Well, the E'state would definitely fuck this up.

[Gwaihir]

His other works delve heavily in occult knowledge he was plagiarizing from the Babylonian mystery schools.

In the “Parable of the Cave” of the Republic, Plato makes use of the image of a cave, in which shadows of objects are cast by a fire onto a wall. Men enchained in the cave cannot turn their heads to see the fire or the objects, and know only their projected images. The allegory is designed to explain the prison of illusion within which humans are generally trapped. If fortunate to be released from his shackles, that is, initiated, the philosopher may recognize that what he had thought was real were mere shadows of props projected by a false light. He may then begin the ascent upward to the entrance of the cave, to gaze at the true light, or true knowledge, symbolized by the Sun, as the Mithraists, who seek union with Mithras, the Sun.164_hermes trismegistus_result_result.jpg

[zodium]

plato was the ur-lib

[Jibartik]

By my count we should see the writing on the wall as early as 2023