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Old 03-31-2016, 08:05 AM
syztem syztem is offline
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Default 3 backstab attempts with duelist?

I never even remotely saw this possible before with self haste and vog, not even with bard song/ervaj or whatever. I have been unable to do it without Claw of Lightning equipped, With it equipped however I find myself able to get off 3 backstabs per duelist timer. Is that extra 1% haste off claw making that much of a difference? I have seen it take anywhere from 1-2 extra seconds after the 3rd backstab goes off for disc to fade. Log parse of one of the fights with an example. If this is only possible with Claw equipped or something then I would think it beats out deadeye for sure?

[Wed Mar 30 20:51:39 2016] Your muscles quiver with power.
[Wed Mar 30 20:51:39 2016] You backstab Ventani the Warder for 444 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 30 20:51:44 2016] You backstab Ventani the Warder for 568 points of damage.

[Wed Mar 30 20:51:44 2016] You try to backstab Ventani the Warder, but miss!
[Wed Mar 30 20:51:50 2016] You backstab Ventani the Warder for 916 points of damage.

[Wed Mar 30 20:51:50 2016] You try to backstab Ventani the Warder, but miss!
[Wed Mar 30 20:51:51 2016] Your fury fades.

(unfortunately on this one, Cekenar was being pushed and I ended up too far in front but that cannot see target was the 3rd bs)
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:22 2016] Your muscles quiver with power.
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:23 2016] You try to backstab Cekenar, but miss!
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:23 2016] You backstab Cekenar for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:28 2016] You try to backstab Cekenar, but miss!
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:33 2016] You cannot see your target.
[Tue Mar 29 19:29:34 2016] Your fury fades.

(example of failing because I wasn't paying attention, but still <1 second to backstab)
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:07 2016] Your muscles quiver with power.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:07 2016] You backstab Dozekar the Cursed for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:07 2016] You backstab Dozekar the Cursed for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:14 2016] You backstab Dozekar the Cursed for 456 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:20 2016] You backstab Dozekar the Cursed for 120 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:19 2016] Your fury fades.
[Tue Mar 29 20:10:20 2016] You try to backstab Dozekar the Cursed, but miss!

[Tue Mar 29 22:02:34 2016] Your muscles quiver with power.
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:35 2016] You backstab Aaryonar for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:35 2016] You backstab Aaryonar for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:40 2016] You backstab Aaryonar for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:45 2016] You try to backstab Aaryonar, but miss!
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:45 2016] You backstab Aaryonar for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 22:02:46 2016] Your fury fades.

clear 2 seconds between 3rd backstab and disc fading.
[Tue Mar 29 23:23:31 2016] Your muscles quiver with power.
[Tue Mar 29 23:23:31 2016] You backstab Lord Vyemm for 450 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 23:23:31 2016] You try to backstab Lord Vyemm, but miss!

[Tue Mar 29 23:23:36 2016] You backstab Lord Vyemm for 388 points of damage.
[Tue Mar 29 23:23:36 2016] You try to backstab Lord Vyemm, but miss!

[Tue Mar 29 23:23:41 2016] You backstab Lord Vyemm for 388 points of damage.

[Tue Mar 29 23:23:43 2016] Your fury fades.


So no one seemed to even notice this on red, or even know about 3 duelist BS's they thought(as did i) that you could only get 3 bs on deadeye.

blue? no idea how many claws you guys have, so just curious. Obviously makes up for a lot of the dps gaps on certain targets if your hitting hard enough. Slashes for 170s about.
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Old 03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
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I always get 3 backstab attempts on the Duelist timer.

I do have a claw of lightning, but technically i've never hit duelist without a 41% haste equipped. I had sky belt for Kunark premier, had Silver Bracelet of Speed early into Velious & now Claw.

I'd be very curious to find out if the 1% haste over Ragebringer's 40% is the reason we get 3.
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:41 PM
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Did worn haste ever start effecting skill timers? If fleeting quivers are working properly they should, but my gut tells me they never got around to fixing it. Think something got broke when they removed the visible haste % from gear.

I did some tests awhile back showing that only spell haste had any impact on bow delay, and presumablely anything else timer related.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:17 PM
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Did worn haste ever start effecting skill timers? If fleeting quivers are working properly they should, but my gut tells me they never got around to fixing it. Think something got broke when they removed the visible haste % from gear.

I did some tests awhile back showing that only spell haste had any impact on bow delay, and presumablely anything else timer related.
Fleeting quiver is def not broken. 100% active and working.
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:13 PM
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Well that's good. I have like 15 of them.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:08 PM
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I don't think it really matters. at all. resolved
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:01 AM
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2 duelist backstabs opposed to 3 doesn't matter? yeah, sure, an extra chance at double 1k+ if good hit, not at all useful.
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