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Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest
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You make it sound like the average federal employee doesn't pay (and bitch about) the same taxes you do. Maybe I'm in a "niche" industry, but the majority of folks i know in the defense sector are republicans. I listened to 8 years of "Ombambi this" and "Obummer that". I literally had a coworker today tell me she would volunteer to be furloughed if it got the wall built. lol. Defense is wacky because we're both government scum and the precious military industrial complex - there's a lot of self loathing and hypocrisy.
I didn't mean to imply that those of you in the private industry are asking for handouts. I was just commenting on the fact that you seem really angry about your personal financial problems.
All i'm really saying is that it's ok to show some sympathy for your fellow americans who are affected by the shutdown. If you came here and said "ahh shit man i got fired" or "we're having budget issues and i have to work without a paycheck for a while", my response wouldn't be "hah good fuck you!"
This us versus them shit is why America is so fucked up right now.
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Im saying if you want sympathy from your fellow americans stop supporting people that are actively seeking to destroy middle class america, because government workers, statistically support the wing of government that seeks to increase taxation of the middle class.
Progressive income tax schemes do not affect the wealthy. The wealthy do not accrue wealth through "income". The wealthy make their money through capital gains, and using their corporations to award themselves free stock and stock options which allows them to bypass "salaried income tax" on top of expensing just about everythibg possible from their private lives against their companies. In the meanwhile, employees are not even able to write off their transportation costs getting to work, let alone their vehicle payment which is largely necessitated by increasing commute distances throughout the country. How is a 200mile/week commute to get to and from work NOT a work related expense?
Quit treating working class americans like we are fucking morons by supporting liars proposing "tax the rich bills" which only ever adversely affect middle class and lower class americans. Quit voting for sales tax increases and "luxury" tsx increases (sugar, cigarettes, alcohol) because they are "flat taxes" which disproportionately target people already strapped for cash. The government needs to learn to operate within its means. The exponential increase to deficit spending on both sides of the aisle needs to stop. The party is over, its hangover time.
Quit understating the attack on lower class americans being undercutted and their fields of occupation opportunity being oversupplied by illegal immigration, and our highschool/college aged kids having to compete with illegal immigrants occupying low skill jobs like theyre lifetime careers while they're trying to pay their way through college (on loans, as a result of illegal immigrants filling positions in service jobs that would otherwise need them)
And youre failing to understand me when i talk about the pay disparity between public and private employees working in identical industries. The public is not JUST upset with the asking for a cost of liv8ng increase, theyre wondering why, when youre already making 20 to 25% more than them, you even need a cost of living increase, let alone a government funded retirement program when we are expected to self fund our retirement on 16 to 20% less income.
Like you stated at the beginning of your posts tonight, the people voted on blablabla. Well, americans also voted for a wall, and a renewed approach to controlling the unfettered illegal immigration that the left has allowed, and even promoted, over the past decade.
Its not a matter of racism, its a matter of self-preservation for americans of all ethnicities at the bottom (ironically, predominately african americans and latino americans struggling with intergenerational poverty are negatively affected the most)