Warrior non hate weapons.

[Throndor]

In sum, Damage bonus is nice, because when you're fighting uphill (i.e. against a mob that has a significant AC advantage over your attack rating <i.e. Highest tier raid targets from current expansion>) your damage bonus becomes more meaningful, as demonstrated in the counter-relevant tanking post above.

However, when your dealing with a mob that your Attack rating vs mob ac rating puts you on the higher end of the hit distribution range (i.e. raid bosses nearing obsolescence, or in-era raid bosses which are fully debuffed with ac-debuffs <cripple, nec/enchanter DoT line, Druid AC debuff) you will do better prioritizing base weapon damage over damage bonus.

Likewise, when tanking AC > HP in most cases, except for perhaps AoW, or any other raid mobs that the devs have specifically tuned to have an attack rating so high that current itemization cannot push the mob toward the bottom of its damage interval table (barring the addition of aoe non-physical damage types from AOE/DDs)

Without actually being or extensively parsing the tanking of a top-end raid tank on this server, I cant really advise on how Sirken has tuned the top-end raid content on this server on an Attack vs AC standpoint, nor can i provide specific examples of the ratio of said raid bosses DI[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]B ratio.

(AoW was a notoriously high attack rating raid boss in era which is why it took guilds so long to bring him down with tanks frequently being two-rounded and sometimes even 1-rounded while tanking him because of the frequency at which they ate max damage rounds)

I can say that in later expansions on live, the devs do less "mega attack" raid bosses , and instead of bolstering raidboss attack power to unimitigably high values, they just increase the ratio of damage bonus to damage interval so that raid bosses have a reliable minimum damage output capability which sets the bar for healing/tanking reqs with "lucky rounds" being much less frequent.

[ScruffMacBuff]

After doing some research I found an old thread showing some research into an accurate formula for damage calculations. The formula shown was:

[((Weapon Skill + Strength)/100) * (DMG)) + (Level Damage Bonus)]

I used this formula with the damage bonuses from the chart I linked earlier (which someone fairly suggested I ignore) with the damage for the same weapons as before (Exquisite Velium Zweihander and Carved Dragonbone Spear) and found the max damage for both as follows:

Exquisite Velium Zweihander - 193.24
Carved Dragonbone Spear - 155.75

Now I only own one of these weapons so I could only cherry pick one parse, but I attached a screenshot of some combined fights in SG the other night where my max hit was 183 with the Zweihander, and a minimum hit of 20. Since the minimum hit formula is simply 1+Damage Bonus, this suggests the damage bonus is incorrect on the chart. I should conduct more research to figure this out for sure and then compare it to the upgraded numbers after the Chardok 2.0 patch.

Nevertheless, my original point may still stand. That is, faster weapons with ratios similar to their slower counterparts should still do more dps. If I reduce the damage bonus in the forumla by 10 to match the actual results and divide by my hasted (41%) delay you get max hit ratios of:

Exquisite Velium Zweihander - 7.17 [Max hit (183.24)/hasted delay (25.53)]
Carved Dragonbone Spear - 7.32 [Max hit (155.75)/hasted delay (21.27)]

What to make of all this? /shrug

I don't have a carved dragonbone spear to test and there's some conjecture in here. You guys seem to be better at math than me. We ALS and our self sufficient education can't cut it in the real world.

[ScruffMacBuff]

Yeah that would affect the overall attack rating, but not by much. I know mine doesn't drop much when I put infestation in the offhand.

[Ezrick]

Originally Posted by Zoggren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not even going to say what I am using right now, but I'll just say that they cost less than 800p combined. What are some good suggestions to spend my hard earned big boy points on for some deeps while I'm playing rogue jr? I have around 10k to spend, but I don't need to spend it all and I don't care about fashion quest either. I have some ideas, like exquisite weapons and Winters Fury, but I'd like other ideas and feedback. Thanks ahead of time for your wisdom! Cheers!

On a budget, nothing beats a good, old fashioned, jade mace in the main hand. Winter's Fury is gotten fairly cheap as an off hand weapon. Use your extra pp to invest in resist gear [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]