Game Mechanics: Mobs in flee mode should re-engage if you sit down

[Dolalin]

I don't remember the sitting-and-they-come-back thing working in group situations. So it must have been something like, top- or only-on-the-hate-list? Or top by a big margin? Then if you're sitting, come back and smack.

[Izmael]

Played live pre-Velious and don't remember this mechanic.

[kaev]

Fleeing mobs returning when you sit was definitely a thing if you were solo and nobody else was on hate list. Two examples:
- Soloing crocs in Oasis with my baby warrior it was a very useful technique to avoid having to chase a barely fleeing mob past kos mobs.
- Soloing ghouls in lguk on my paladin I used it to avoid adds when root broke or was resisted while mob was still healthy enough to move quickly.

[GlassDeviant]

Has anyone been through the patch notes from that time? Or better yet, does anyone have access to SOE/Verant developer notes, GM/Guide support case histories, anything where someone not a player has had anything to say on the subject?

[Izmael]

Not sure if this has already been taken care of / discussed here.

When an NPC flees because of being low HP, and you, the attacker, sit down, isn't the NPC supposed to immediately come back and whack you?

I think I remember doing it on my druid back on live, joggling with the NPC running back and forth by sitting/standing (not sure why.. probably just for fun).

I quit my druid in early 2001 so it has to be relevant to P99 time frame.

[feniin]

It's been brought up but I don't think there was enough documented evidence even though many of us remember it happening.

[Dolalin]

More evidence from classic:

10/18/99

Not hugely, but I did burn 700 mana trying to smite a willowisp
yesterday in Befallen (it still didn't die, I ended up having to gate
as it wouldn't leave me alone to let me med - just comes up, hits you
and fucks off, you HAVE to kill it with magic unless you fancy chasing
the damn thing through the entire dungeon)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....s/WBWdNO_HVKgJ

[Intensifier]

Yes NPCs always loved to take a shot at a sitting it no matter what practically only enough hate would prevent this. Typically a pet or tank.. everything else monks rogues anything without a significant amount of threat couldn't stop them from getting that sit hit.

To note it all works beautifully outside of the fleeing sit n hit.

[Ligma]

There was some calculation from their hp and your hp to determine if sitting or low hp would get them to hit you.

Not in era but at one point there was a bug where you could agro mobs in the nexus with dispell but you couldn't hit them. I tried to kill one with DS but it was impossible to get it to die even when sitting with low hp agro.

[DMN]

I brought this issue up previously. If you sat down mobs would come back and attack you. mobs also would only flee a certain distance and sort of do a little dance there, maybe just out of casting range of most spells.

Might consider searching for the term CWG Model EXG or charred guardian shield. It was something of a rite of passage for a druid to solo this and the only way you can finish her off is to get her into flee hp levels and keep sitting down so she comes back and hits you to finally die on your damage shield.