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Old 04-13-2022, 03:23 PM
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meh. why bother when you cn just buy staff of btattle and save all your plat for a BIS weapon/haste in the future?
I was actually going to ask about the Haste, because if I already have a Haste item (in this case, not a great one, 24%), does Swiftwind still make that big of a difference in overall DPS? What if you already had a strong Haste item, like CoF, just shy of Swiftwinds 40%?

I'm going to try and get it regardless, I'm just curious.
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Old 04-13-2022, 03:34 PM
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the more haste is always better, but the + attack seems to be pretty good.

Not parsed the difference, not sure how I would (maybe blunt or pierce in primary?) but feels good to use.
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Old 04-13-2022, 03:37 PM
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the more haste is always better, but the + attack seems to be pretty good.

Not parsed the difference, not sure how I would (maybe blunt or pierce in primary?) but feels good to use.
Does +attack actually make a difference in your overall DPS?

Cause I do NOT use my Firefist spell. You've got me curious now if that's a big mistake, not to be using it.
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Old 04-13-2022, 03:58 PM
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Oops ignore my staff of battle comment, i thought i clicked on the warrior twink thread.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:14 PM
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Does +attack actually make a difference in your overall DPS?

Cause I do NOT use my Firefist spell. You've got me curious now if that's a big mistake, not to be using it.
depends on what you are fighting. EQ will compare ur atk with enemy ac and use that to weigh a d20 roll to pick how much damage you do. if ur atk is close to enemy ac then adding attack will make a difference to the weightings. If the enemy AC is either way higher or way lower than your atk then adding a smidgen more won't make a difference. Basically if you are doing a good spread of damages on your hits, adding attack will help a fair bit. If you are hitting mostly for min or mostly for max it won't do much.

I pretty much always cast it anyway, otherwise I may as well not be a ranger.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:20 PM
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depends on what you are fighting. EQ will compare ur atk with enemy ac and use that to weigh a d20 roll to pick how much damage you do. if ur atk is close to enemy ac then adding attack will make a difference to the weightings. If the enemy AC is either way higher or way lower than your atk then adding a smidgen more won't make a difference. Basically if you are doing a good spread of damages on your hits, adding attack will help a fair bit. If you are hitting mostly for min or mostly for max it won't do much.

I pretty much always cast it anyway, otherwise I may as well not be a ranger.
I'm just lazy about constantly reapplying buffs that only last 10 minutes. I don't like having to constantly swap spells.

I never saw Ranger as a class that absolutely has to utilize every little advantage it possibly can, but if it would serve me better, I guess I can try to start breaking some lazy habits.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:48 PM
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haste is incredibly important, especially sub 60 when you arent getting raid buffed constantly. the damage output inrease going from 21 haste to 40 haste is.... very easily calculatable. 140/121 is 15% more damage; thats alot. thats more incremental dps than youll get at 60 going from a jade mace primary to a swiftblade of zek primary. as the poster above mentioned... attack is also very important at the high end. generally speaking about 10 atk is 1% increased dps (its much more complicated than this); and once you got your weapons and cap strength and haste, its the last frontier of increasing damage.
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Old 04-16-2022, 10:30 PM
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I'm just lazy about constantly reapplying buffs that only last 10 minutes. I don't like having to constantly swap spells.

I never saw Ranger as a class that absolutely has to utilize every little advantage it possibly can, but if it would serve me better, I guess I can try to start breaking some lazy habits.
Once you hit 51, you'll get Strength of Nature as an upgrade to firefist. It lasts for like an hour so it's much nicer for buff management.
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Old 12-28-2022, 04:02 PM
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I was actually going to ask about the Haste, because if I already have a Haste item (in this case, not a great one, 24%), does Swiftwind still make that big of a difference in overall DPS? What if you already had a strong Haste item, like CoF, just shy of Swiftwinds 40%?

I'm going to try and get it regardless, I'm just curious.
Pretty much impossible for a Ranger to get a 41% haste item outside of a raid environment. This makes Swiftwind amazing; especially for how easy it is to obtain. I’d start working on my epic immediately and finish it ASAP. I’m willing to help with any fights as I’m usually bored and looking for something to do. The absolute best thing you could do for your characters development is finish your Swiftwind. It’s THAT good. Then as someone else mentioned, spend the 5-6k on a Crafted Velium Warsword. Those weapons will last you until you’re 60 and well into entry level raiding if that’s something that interests you.
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Old 12-28-2022, 04:09 PM
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its cheap because its not really that good for 95% of blue players
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