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Old 05-14-2021, 01:57 PM
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They work. I dare you to get into a chemical biological or radiological situation without PPE. Why couldnt anyone construct this bet?? Mask man of culture on one side of bench. Covid man in middle. Caveman on other side. Sit there for 30 mins, shoulder to shoulder with covid man.

2 weeks, take covid test. If you die, you lose. If you test positive, you lose. If you test negative, you win.

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Old 05-14-2021, 02:19 PM
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Believing that a mask would solve that problem is even more retarded than wearing one in 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56206004

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"People here have been not wearing masks. They have been attending unregulated mass gatherings such as marriages and campaigns for local elections. There is free intermingling of people, carriers are not getting isolated, and testing and tracking is low. This has led to this situation," Dr Sanjay Oak, a member of the state's Covid task force, told the BBC.

It's not just Maharashtra where cases have grown recently. Some areas in Kerala, Karnataka, Telangana, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Punjab states have also reported surges. This comes at a time when much of India is reporting a sharp fall in cases - with daily infections for the county falling to less than 20,000 from a peak of over 90,000 in September.

And that has baffled scientists, disease modellers and epidemiologist. The most common reasons given for the spikes in some states are the same as in Maharashtra - big weddings, people not wearing masks, reopening of cinema halls, gyms and swimming pools, and large political rallies in states like West Bengal where elections are due soon.
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Old 05-14-2021, 03:00 PM
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Doesn't prove they do anything

India is in the top 10 of purchased vaccines in the entire world

Not to mention the absolute environmental disaster a billion+ discarded masks would be in that country
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:45 PM
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Doesn't prove they do anything
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India is in the top 10 of purchased vaccines in the entire world
The population of India is 1.366 billion (2019)
The population of the United States of America is 328.2 million (2019)

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Not to mention the absolute environmental disaster a billion+ discarded masks would be in that country
It must be Groundhog Day again. That point was made earlier in this thread...

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But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-h...ticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the...ling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
...but disregarded because consumer behavior apparently has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

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If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll
Admittedly though, dogs would have been a more affective example to use instead of dolls.

https://www.petplace.com/article/dog...02-dalmatians/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2019/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:45 PM
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Alarti would be proud.



The population of India is 1.366 billion (2019)
The population of the United States of America is 328.2 million (2019)



It must be Groundhog Day again. That point was made earlier in this thread...



...but disregarded because consumer behavior apparently has nothing to do with the topic at hand.



Admittedly though, dogs would have been a more affective example to use instead of dolls.

https://www.petplace.com/article/dog...02-dalmatians/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2019/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies
You really put in a lot of effort in that post without realizing the vast majority of Covid Infections do not occur in public places

You really are retarded
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Old 05-15-2021, 09:17 AM
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No doubt during the 1600s Dr Sanjay Gupta would be wearing a different kind of robe and busily boiling salamanders and burning women who looked at him sideways at the stake for witchcraft.

Fortunately, in the modern age we do scientific experiments, which clearly show that Gupta is a quack and masks do not prevent COVID transmission.
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Old 05-15-2021, 09:28 AM
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You really put in a lot of effort in that post without realizing the vast majority of Covid Infections do not occur in public places
Writing an article takes a lot of effort. Reading and linking an article takes very little effort. Making a blanket statement, without including any evidence to support it, takes almost no effort at all. A generalization accounts only for what is passively observed rather than what is actively investigated. And, as with anything unspecific, it requires a disclaimer or certain concessions after the fact.

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So when is a space public and when is it private? Are the two always distinctly separate? If not, where do the transitions occur? There are, after all, private beaches and public restrooms. Private acts are also easily accomplished in public, on airplanes and in dressing rooms. Public spaces also vary greatly from culture to culture, due to a number of factors, not excluding architecture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoji

And then there is the matter of pseudo-public spaces.

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/ar...-public-spaces

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Privately-owned public spaces, or ‘PoPs’, are on the rise and have silently infiltrated cities worldwide. In fact, you might use one day-to-day without even knowing – and there could be more to come.

On the surface, these pseudo-public spaces can look like any other accessible space like a park, open square or throughway. But in fact, they don’t fall under the jurisdiction of the local government. They’re owned and operated by private developers or private companies.

“Public space is publicly-owned space, where people have fairly broad rights linked to values of democracy and freedom of expression,” says urban designer and landscape architect Dr Mike Harris from UNSW Built Environment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7307066/

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The mayor predicted that the market would attract a lot more visitors than other markets in the region, since the weekly marketplace of Valkenswaard is one the biggest in the regionThe marketplace has many narrow streets where people queue up. That is a risk. The mayor expected that it would be impossible for community service officers [BOA’s] to maintain the order of one‐and‐a‐half metres distancing. (Interview April 2020)

Quite suddenly, however, in the midst of this temporary death of the marketplace − during which all socio‐economic interactions came to a standstill for two weeks − the market manager informed all the traders on their collective Facebook‐page that the mayor had revoked his earlier decision to completely close down the market until 2 April, as also reported in a regional newspaper:

The last two weeks, the market has been called off completely. In an amended [spatial] layout, however, the market is allowed to continue… In the case of Valkenswaard, only 24 food pitches will be set up instead of the 75 market pitches that are available during a fully occupied market. The market pitches will be set up in such a way that visitors have enough space to keep a distance from each other. Only food products are allowed for sale. Moreover, people are not allowed to consume their products on the market terrain. (van den Eijnden 2020)
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The visitor conflates a ‘real’ market, characterised by the uproar and muttering of people moving around – that is, fleeting forms of ‘rubbing along’, such as connecting, lingering and taking pleasure in the shared commons (Watson 2009, p. 1589) – with a ‘controlled’ market of separated market pitches and dividing lines where people are constantly conscious of, and on their guard against, unexpected movements and social interactions. This separation is important, as people seem to derive their sense of ‘real’ marketplaces from their easy sociality that either incorporates or challenges the definition of the situation being proposed. As such, the breakdown of the physical conditions of marketplaces that facilitate the chaotic and unpredictable forms of social interactions in the form of open regions (Goffman 1963) indeed reveals, as Latham and Layton (2019) have argued, their transparency in the development of people’s sense of reflexive awareness and common experience of community and belonging.
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In many municipalities, markets have been closed down … We absolutely do not understand these decisions. I do not think that anyone understands these decisions. The current corona crisis is horrible and the national regulations are judicious. But they have to be proportionate. Why can shops remain open, while the ambulant trade has to close down? […] We will go the court to complain about this, not because markets have been closed down per se, but because of the irrational way in which this has happened. It is completely, utterly, random! (CVAH, 2020b original emphasis)

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Here, it becomes clear that the decisions to close down the markets are in themselves not considered as illegitimate, but rather the disproportionate way in which these decisions had been taken; arousing uncertainty for the economic vitality of traders’ businesses. Media coverage especially focused on the vulnerability of markets, quoting traders that face difficulties in these times of corona. For example, a fishmonger from Spakenburg complained about the long‐term financial consequences of the ad hoc decisions of safety regions to close down marketplaces without being notified in advance: ‘Six of the ten marketplaces where I use to trade on a weekly basis have been cancelled. This is going to cost me ten thousand euros’ (Rijnmond 2020b). Corroborating these personal statements, the executive director of CVAH explained that he received hundreds of calls and emails of concerned traders throughout the whole country ‘who had returned from the vegetables and fruit auction halls with their cars fully packed with merchandise worth ten thousand euros for the coming days, before they discovered that the markets were closed down. These are extraordinary financial setbacks.’ (CVAH 2020b).
By analysing this process from the ground level in one of our main fieldwork sites, the marketplace of Valkenswaard, we found that the representation of the market as ‘unsafe’ morphed into a vision that conceived of the market as a vulnerable yet vital part of the food chain to justify its re‐opening. During this process, the marketplace lost its status as a social infrastructure (Klinenberg 2018) and transformed into a ‘sanitised’ (Smith 1998) or ‘prickly’ (Flusty 1997) public space of rational and immediate economic interactions. In addition, the strict regulatory framework that reduced the physical conditions of easy sociality, or ‘rubbing along’ (Watson 2009), also engendered new forms of social interaction and trading, which poignantly lay bare the mutual interdependencies of people in marketplaces as one of the most critical public spaces in cities and villages.
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The Tijdschrift voor economische en sociale geografie (English: Journal of Economic & Social Geography) is a peer-reviewed academic journal published by Wiley-Blackwell on behalf of the Royal Dutch Geographical Society. The editor-in-chief is Frank van Oort (Erasmus University Rotterdam). The journal focuses on contemporary issues in human geography, with articles relating to economic, social, cultural and political geographical themes. It journal was established in 1910, making it the oldest journal in human geography.[1]
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They work. I dare you to get into a chemical biological or radiological situation without PPE. Why couldnt anyone construct this bet?? Mask man of culture on one side of bench. Covid man in middle. Caveman on other side. Sit there for 30 mins, shoulder to shoulder with covid man.

2 weeks, take covid test. If you die, you lose.
This test was actually done back in 1919 when men were men. They pureed the lungs of people who had died of influenza and sprayed it into the noses of healthy volunteers. Nothing happened. In fact there were quite a few experiments done and all came up negative.
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Sample Size Calculations
The sample size was determined to provide adequate power for assessment of the combined composite primary outcome in the intention-to-treat analysis. Authorities estimated an incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection of at least 2% during the study period.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7217796/

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Denmark, a Scandinavian country of 5.8 million people has weathered the Covid-19 crisis with a relatively low rate of infection and death. Denmark has also become one of the first European countries to partially re-open its society. We offer the perspective that the combination of rapid response from the government, trust and a high level of confidence in government by Danish citizens, and the importance of social heritage contributed to the effective management of the coronavirus crisis.
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Danish success in coping with the Covid-19 crisis can also be attributed to their social heritage and traditions. Indeed, as a French citizen, it is easy to compare the important social differences existing between Denmark and other southern European countries like France. Although the Danes are extremely friendly, they respect all year long what is called these days “social distancing” - the most important approach to reduce virus transmission. Indeed, as compared to Italians, French and Spanish, Danish people have few physical contacts. They do give hugs, but only to close family members or friends; they do not shake hands; they do not kiss each other to say hello; and generally speaking, they like to keep a decent social distance on public transportation and in other public places. The opposite is true in the southern European countries where physical interactions are the cement of relationships amongst family, friends and colleagues.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90582981...s-samfundssind

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In March 2020, at the start of the pandemic, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen urged all Danes to show samfundssind, which means to consider the needs of society above your own. In English, it roughly translates to community spirit, civic engagement, or civic-mindedness.

Since then, relative to the U.S. and the rest of Europe, Denmark has done quite well responding to the coronavirus, with low rates of infections and deaths and high rates of compliance with preventative guidelines. And research shows that—regardless of their gender or age—Danes are more concerned about infecting others than getting infected themselves.
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