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#291
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If everyone always played by the rules in good faith, there'd be no problems. If 5 guilds could race and then 4 of them said, "Congrats" to the winner, walked away and tried again next week, you'd see more "competition". But RnF/Raid Discussion/Personal Experience says that doesn't happen. | |||
Last edited by Ravager; 01-10-2017 at 12:40 PM..
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#292
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If Taken/BDA never played ball to start, you wouldnt have had a rotation outside of that '3rd' spawn of each Class R mob which would have worked because that would have been an improvement to 0 raid content for the very casual guilds. It is because of the patience of Taken/BDA that the system was spearheaded into something that had ground to stand on and it lasted for basically a full year til Velious was announced and loftier goals were created. The end.
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#293
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No up and coming guilds would not have to go through the same level of lawyering that A/A employ - not in the slightest. Yes those guilds would have to follow the rules though (lol?) but I have yet to see any cases where an 'A' had an issue with a smaller guild's raid target that couldnt be solved with simple in game tells to leadership. The petition quest happens because A/A want to make the other suffer for some reason, and we are cut throat when we feel we have a violation against the other entity. We ( cant speak for Aftermath tho but I assume this sentiment is true) rarely care and most the time are happy when other guilds are killing shit/contesting. It would be foolish to scare people away because thats what keeps things fresh and fun. I will say its much easier to live in fear and keep your guns clutched to your chest then step out and try some of this stuff.
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#294
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Couldn't step up to Class C because you couldn't compete but at the same time wanted to zerg/dominate Class R. Should have had the balls and contested where you belonged. Omni, Europa, AG, Supremacy, Moonlight Crusaders, A-Team (if not for doing "more with less" members they could have probably stepped up), Anonymous, and whoever else I missed were the casual guilds of the time. What was needed that obviously wouldn't have suited the rule makers was some kind of progression rule. | |||
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Can we get a rotation going on Stormfeather? I really want an eyepatch but all these casual neckbeards won't let me have one. Think about it.
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#296
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This is by far the most honest the raidscene has ever been. Long since are gone the days of TMOs SKs and monks blatantly training their competition on fraps, then the petition threads going unanswered and the same crap going on week in week out. A/A are both terrified of any fraps showing any random lost app dropping a single trash bone skeleton on their competition at DN, since it can lead to 10 days off. Most of the "omg we got trained"-stories these days people come up with are just messed up kites/trainups, people buffing/healing their pullers, etc goofy nonsense that chalk up to inexperience. Far cry from days of Zeetool bursting out of firewall with every mob in there and flopping them right ontop of CT the moment the competition dared to engage it.
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The barrier of entry to VP key your raid force for Class C made it impossible for any guild to enter. Looking back, since Taken/BDA are a common 'root' of rotational problems - having Trakanon ever rotate to Class C was the issue. If guilds were suppose to progress up to Class C and VP was the big prize, Class C should have never had a 'free' Trakanon and the dragon should have just rotated FFA/R. This would have allowed Taken/BDA type guilds to properly key up a raid force to move to the next tier. In fact, we probably should have not rotated Trakanon at all in Class R and set him aside for aspiring Class C guilds... Oh well.
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Eratani / Cleratani / Eratou / Stabatani / Flopatani / Eratii
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We dont care if other guilds contest and take our shit - but you better do it in a way that coincides with the server rules. If a violation is repeated over and over again, sure a petition might occur but I would wager it would rarely come to that as A/A are not swashbuckling cannibal savages, we would be the first to congratulate any guild on a well won race/kill. Most raid violations are usually misunderstandings where people find themselves at the wrong place and the wrong time, its rarely anything devious or malicious. People do need to be held accountable for their actions though and thats why fraps are so popular for violations because photos dont lie regardless of the good natured intent.
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Last edited by Erati; 01-10-2017 at 12:51 PM..
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RIP Moonlight Crusaders RIP Supremacy More Hate/Fear/Sky raids for the rest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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