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Old 09-19-2019, 09:43 AM
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i agree with "therealmd" and disagree with "demoraliser".

chanter/sham duo is way stronger than chanter/cleric duo. (assuming the people playing these classes are highly skilled and it's at 60 with torpor and gear for a few select camps

chanter/sham is higher risk higher reward. sure, if u have a shitty chanter then chanter/cleric is better. (most chanters are shitty which is why most ppl believe chanter/cleric is superior which is not the case).

for example, chanter/sham can duo the rats in DN and chanter can charm a rogue rat pet to backstab while the shaman facetanks etc. shaman has way more utility than cleric.

again, like i said before, chanter/sham is higher risk / higher reward which is why most ppl don't do it cus u guys are shitlords.


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Fixed.

You're not even really disagreeing with me. I never said that in some very limited situations (i.e. 60, geared, torpor, both very good players, for a few specific camps, when you're ok with higher risk) a shaman isn't a "stronger" partner for an enchanter. I just said that the enchanter+cleric duo is overall (i.e. considering 1-60, naked through geared, all variety of camps across the expansions) a better duo.


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I feel like someone just called the the reigning champ shitty.

How do we settle this?
Lol. Well, to be fair, I probably have 500x (literally) as much time soloing as I do duoing. And my shaman duo experience was mostly at king back in mid-Kunark. But yeah, he's just trolling or being asinine to act like you need to be a shitty enchanter in order to get killed by your pet or on a pull and that therefore good enchanters don't need cleric hp+ac buffs, superior heals, stuns, and rez even more than they need malo and more dps from the shaman.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:14 PM
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Shaman dps very important for quadding hasted pet
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:41 PM
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Fixed.

You're not even really disagreeing with me. I never said that in some very limited situations (i.e. 60, geared, torpor, both very good players, for a few specific camps, when you're ok with higher risk) a shaman isn't a "stronger" partner for an enchanter. I just said that the enchanter+cleric duo is overall (i.e. considering 1-60, naked through geared, all variety of camps across the expansions) a better duo.
I was never responding to you nor acknowledging your post. Get off your high horse, fgt. I was responding to therealmd and demoraliser's initial posts/argument in the first 1 or 2 pages of this thread.


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Old 09-19-2019, 04:52 PM
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Chanter / cleric is the best combo anyone else who thinks otherwise might be on the spectrum
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:06 PM
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These debates are largely stupid. Play what you enjoy playing, and if you're lucky enough to have in-game friends that know their sh1t and can actually tolerate your miserable arse for hours on end, who really cares if it's not the optimal combination. You might actually have to think outside the box a little and be creative, and it may even be more of a challenge. Oh the horror...
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:07 PM
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Eberron I got a 53 enchanter and I'm lazy. If I spend more money on my monk maybe I can solo okay and I can /fd to do whatever I want to do with my life.

If I have FT3 + ZHeart, can my ench be a beast!?!? Will I have to tryhard every kill? What can I do with my life bigdadyd Eb what can I do!?

Also most enchanters do not have FT8 and most do not have Ring 10.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:17 PM
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Eberron I got a 53 enchanter and I'm lazy. If I spend more money on my monk maybe I can solo okay and I can /fd to do whatever I want to do with my life.

If I have FT3 + ZHeart, can my ench be a beast!?!? Will I have to tryhard every kill? What can I do with my life bigdadyd Eb what can I do!?

Also most enchanters do not have FT8 and most do not have Ring 10.

u don't need amazing gear to do amazing things as a chanter. i don't have any FT items nor do i have zheart nor do i even have the epic, and i've accomplished more things as a solo/duo chanter than most if not all chanters that i've seen in this server.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:24 PM
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Eberron I got a 53 enchanter and I'm lazy. If I spend more money on my monk maybe I can solo okay and I can /fd to do whatever I want to do with my life.

If I have FT3 + ZHeart, can my ench be a beast!?!? Will I have to tryhard every kill? What can I do with my life bigdadyd Eb what can I do!?

Also most enchanters do not have FT8 and most do not have Ring 10.
Here's a tip if you're wealthy enough to get that other stuff. Root nets. Lots of them.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:27 PM
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:43 PM
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I feel like I'm being called bad because my enchanter has good gear
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