Stormfeather camp list?

[Dugface]

The fact that Stormfeather just skipped 3 spawns hasn't helped.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My statement is based on real experience, both personal and anecdotal from other people, that lists are only enforceable for the single next person.

I really wonder how that would hold up to GM review. Two people could lock Stormfeather indefinitely.

[Lemonhead]

Not commenting on this spawn, but on green, many of these camps could and will be held by groups. And they can just operate like normal groups. People come in and out at the group's discretion. This means that guilds can and will hold camps for very long periods. If you are going to play green, don't expect the few goodies. Just don't. And then we can all be happy. But we won't. We're not good at that.

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very true, and definitely something I think the staff should consider changing (especially with the imminent release of Green which undoubtedly will have more camp lists).

There's just no overall/systemic benefit I can see to letting people pass camps to their friends/guildies: all it does is create tons of possibilities for players to "game the system", lock camps up, etc. I really think the system would just work better overall if everyone was required to maintain a list (if asked) and required to pass the camp (and list) off to the next person when they're done.

Of course there may well be some CSR angle I'm not considering which makes such a change bad for them, but I hope they at least consider the idea.

That was my thoughts friend. I come across angry but I'm more perplexed. Had no clue it was like AC. I can't honestly see people getting it done having to wait 18-36 hrs only to be skipped by a player too lol.

Seemed much simpler on live I guess where first to tag and dps down won it. Though maybe that's not good either. But trusting a player... damn.

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by Dugface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that Stormfeather just skipped 3 spawns hasn't helped.

I was there when zilo logged in only to see a skip. Now three skips. Something is wrong storm feather doesn't skip 3 times. Not classic anyhow. One skip Max.

[JDFriend99]

Anyhow I appreciate u all explaining it as I really had no idea how this worked. Hard to say if it's worth going on in the quest. I thought lodizals map was gonna be difficult.

[DromalPhrenia]

Originally Posted by Lemonhead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not commenting on this spawn, but on green, many of these camps could and will be held by groups. And they can just operate like normal groups. People come in and out at the group's discretion. This means that guilds can and will hold camps for very long periods. If you are going to play green, don't expect the few goodies. Just don't. And then we can all be happy. But we won't. We're not good at that.

That's why you make friends with people likely to hold those camps [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

....Of course, one particularly nasty factor here is that Manastones are not lore...

[Madbad]

Fuck lists, sit at camp or GTFO

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Madbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck lists, sit at camp or GTFO

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Madbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck lists, sit at camp or GTFO

Honestly I think that's an even better idea than forced lists.

Simple rule: you must hand off camp to a randomly selected person out of those currently waiting for it. 100% fair, favors the people that put in the work, ensures no lock-downs ... all around it seems like a win to me.