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Old 03-03-2018, 12:06 PM
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Well in the end CSG shot themselves in the foot by ending the ring war rotation.
Revisionism at its finest.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 03-03-2018, 01:00 PM
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What about mounts? Or did they abandon that in favor of the out of combat meditation?
Agnarr... turn off new models, never see a horse :P
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Old 03-03-2018, 01:36 PM
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Revisionism at its finest.
Double naw.
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:04 PM
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If you would just let CSG play when, where, and however they want there wouldn't be a problem. Is that so hard?
Because rotations let people play whenever they want?
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:57 PM
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Because rotations let people play whenever they want?
What you're describing is actually fun. It is available on several live TLP servers, including one launching in 2 weeks (Coirnav). It isn't classic EQ. In classic EQ 10% of the server actually gets their "joy" trying to win EQ.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:27 PM
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I am completely baffled about these opinions of rotations.
Did anyone play on the Karana server 1999-2004 ?
We had the Karana Council of Guilds.
Every guild could sign up for an opportunity on a scheduled time so no one had to leap out of bed at 4am or pull a 72hrs poop sock. It 100% worked. It was enforced by the players on the server who blacklisted violators. Blacklist being those violators would be ignored by 95% of the server. No groups, no ports, no sales, no raids, no help, no communicating to them.
The only result of the above was a guild that formed with ONLY these blacklisted people which in turn caused them to near daily loose people to permanent bans. (They violated PNP at every turn).

This system worked just fine until Pop when it really wasn't needed anymore due to the larger amount of content.
It never stopped working, just faded out, and then died with instances.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:34 PM
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I am completely baffled about these opinions of rotations.
Did anyone play on the Karana server 1999-2004 ?
We had the Karana Council of Guilds.
Every guild could sign up for an opportunity on a scheduled time so no one had to leap out of bed at 4am or pull a 72hrs poop sock. It 100% worked. It was enforced by the players on the server who blacklisted violators. Blacklist being those violators would be ignored by 95% of the server. No groups, no ports, no sales, no raids, no help, no communicating to them.
The only result of the above was a guild that formed with ONLY these blacklisted people which in turn caused them to near daily loose people to permanent bans. (They violated PNP at every turn).

This system worked just fine until Pop when it really wasn't needed anymore due to the larger amount of content.
It never stopped working, just faded out, and then died with instances.
Actually yeah I played on Karana during that time. I was named Heebs there too, did we know each other?
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 03-03-2018, 03:36 PM
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I am completely baffled about these opinions of rotations.
Did anyone play on the Karana server 1999-2004 ?
We had the Karana Council of Guilds.
Every guild could sign up for an opportunity on a scheduled time so no one had to leap out of bed at 4am or pull a 72hrs poop sock. It 100% worked. It was enforced by the players on the server who blacklisted violators. Blacklist being those violators would be ignored by 95% of the server. No groups, no ports, no sales, no raids, no help, no communicating to them.
The only result of the above was a guild that formed with ONLY these blacklisted people which in turn caused them to near daily loose people to permanent bans. (They violated PNP at every turn).

This system worked just fine until Pop when it really wasn't needed anymore due to the larger amount of content.
It never stopped working, just faded out, and then died with instances.
But more to your point yes Karana was wonderful. I was in one of the top guilds on the server and there was never any raiding at 3am or staring at walls BS. We would come home from work/school at like 6pm est, pick a spot to raid and by 6:30 we were there. By the time I was raiding it was PoP but I never heard of the kind of crazy stuff that goes on with P99 until I came to P99.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:23 PM
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But that wouldn’t work here, because we have 9 years of people leveling up to share 2 years of content...

We have hundreds and hundreds of raid capable characters vying for a couple dozen targets.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:24 PM
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Karana had 2 years of people leveled up for two years of content, spread across a couple dozen different servers.
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