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Old 02-26-2013, 08:48 PM
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Could you get him to post the source code?

P.S. who is this guy and what code does he have?
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:48 PM
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1. Source would do us no good, its drastically different than eqemu. What we need is the logic to follow that can be coded.

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Old 02-27-2013, 02:56 AM
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if you were 60s with 255+ resist back then it was easier to resists aoes.

They made the 2002/09/04 patch in that effect, they removed the level part of the equation and replaced it with a minus 150 resist adjust on some of the aoes.

With the 255 resist cap, you had something like ~215 resists after the 6 level difference between you and the dragon in Veeshan's peak. This translates to around 365 resists right now with the current system.

So currently, the dragon aoes are hitting more often than not. Changing This would make it much easier for our current overgeared characters to resists the aoes.

If you want more info on this, look up the resist change patch.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:00 AM
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Severilous aoe should be cake to resist this much is true.

Dragon fear'd still hit me around the 200 marker at 60, but wouldn't last full duration almost ever.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:12 AM
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I'm all for switching to the old resist system if its manageable.

Here's a snippet from hoshkar's aoe(Diseased Cloud) lucy.

2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Resistadj from 0 to -150
2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Durationtext from 1 ticks @L1 to 3.0 mins @L60 to 1 ticks @L1 to 3.3 mins @L65
2002-09-04 11:33 Changed Unknown139 from to 1
2002-06-12 12:27 Changed Unknown130 from 0 to 100
2002-06-12 12:27 Changed SpellIcon from to
2002-06-05 11:20 Changed SpellIcon from to
2002-03-07 11:32 Initial Entry

So you can see that for classic there was no -150 resist adjust, but the mob level(65 or 66) was doing most of the resist adjustment. If you were not 60, you'd get raped by all those aoes. If you were 60 and had 255 resist you were in the 75%+ resist on level 66 mobs.

My point is if you do change this, you need to bring back mob level resist adjustment and get rid of the set -150 on most of the aoes encountered in kunark. Having 255 resist and those -150 adjust is just plain ridiculous.

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Being fair, the current system isnt that bad -- its just not tuned for classic. That system was designed for the planes of power era and the raiders then had luclins + ntov resists.

I cant imagine the amount of work that would be involved in changing the resist system back to the real classic experience. Thats why I dont think we will see any of it.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:29 AM
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Don't think making resist max 255 is too hard for one.

Also check my poison breath classic DB shot dude, shows -150 on poison breath (nice lil contradiction to your argument here sir). Pretty much seals it for me. This is well before 2002, esp in EQ years with expansions about a year and change or so apart.

Changing back and forth from 0,-150,0 and other values is pretty common for the lucy entrees around PoP/Luclin etc.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:55 AM
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:00 AM
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Prove that the 255 cap is a cap within the server and not within the client! Perhaps the old client was being sent values over 255 and the client merely truncated them.

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:07 AM
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:14 PM
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Prove that the 255 cap is a cap within the server and not within the client! Perhaps the old client was being sent values over 255 and the client merely truncated them.

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everything capped at 255. resists for some reason are the only one that didnt have it capped on the client display.

Even AC and ATK used to show "out of 1000"

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