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Old 11-20-2019, 03:44 PM
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Facts got nothing to do with politics bro
Right. I guess if you ignore the facts they'll just magically go poof.

Lol. You guys are something else.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:44 PM
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Ripp probably believes Nixon was innocent.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:47 PM
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Right. I guess if you ignore the facts they'll just magically go poof.

Lol. You guys are something else.
You started it
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:48 PM
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I think it's disingenuous to call Trump supporters 'mental gymnasts.' Beliefs within the alt-right aren't intractable things like we are used to calling "beliefs." They adapt to context and targets as needs arise and change. Their only intractable goal is the defense of white authoritarianism. Any beliefs that may support or defend that goal [non-explicitly] may be adopted and discarded at any time to defend any point or attack any particular target.

Mental shapeshifters or cylons may be more apt.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:50 PM
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Trump on the lawn with his sharpie notes to help him keep 15 words straight is going to be remembered as his Nixon "not a crook" moment
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:52 PM
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I don't really get it. Everything appears to be hearsay, and the likely-hood that it'll pass the senate is slim. Pearl-clutching over strong-arming another nation, even if true, doesn't do anything for me. We've been at war almost the entirety of our nation's history. And the hegemonic power since WWII. We've been up to a lot of bad shit that current politicians have been around for. Pelosi was around when I was in high school in the 90s. These politicians have no principles outside of themselves and their donors. They need to keep us fighting so we don't arm ourselves and go after their mansions.

Both parties, love war, too big to fail banks, NSA collecting all your dick pics, and strong-arming weaker nations. None of them are for us. Trump's saving grace, if he had any grace at all, would be that he's not a career politician. He's just a sign of a larger problem. The fact that our choices in 2016 were a reality TV star and the war-monger lizard queen just goes to show how far the rot has advanced.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:54 PM
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Trump on the lawn with his sharpie notes to help him keep 15 words straight is going to be remembered as his Nixon "not a crook" moment
Since you clearly ignored this and are knee-deep in your spin, i'll remind you-

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It's called QUOTING, something the President needs to do perfectly, lest some moron posts a picture and tries to spin it somehow. oh wait.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:56 PM
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Ripp probably believes Nixon was innocent.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:57 PM
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Since you clearly ignored this and are knee-deep in your spin, i'll remind you-

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It's called QUOTING, something the President needs to do perfectly, lest some moron posts a picture and tries to spin it somehow. oh wait.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Except that's not what was actually said. Sondland clearly stated there was instruction from Trump through Ghouliani to force Ukraine to announce an investigation or they would not receive aid.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:58 PM
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Using those buzzwords you don't understand again. Just start saying pilpul and redpill or whatever like Teppler. At least he owns his insanity.
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