Mage epic --- game changing?

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Bristlebaner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately, an epic mage is still many orders of magnitude weaker than an enchanter in tunnel gear.

Yeah as another poster already pointed out, no other class is close to the power (many orders of magnitude) than an enchanter in tunnel gear.

Mages shine brightly in the dps role xp groups. Situationally they can do well enough in the dps department on raids where they can use their pet. Pet or otherwise they still have vital, though often unappreciated, roles to play on raids. The mage hate would be far less severe if we didn’t have a half dozen years of kunark followed by as many years locked into velious. 55 Mage alts are a dime a dozen, watering down the need severely for dedicated raid main mages.

If we had 6 months of kunark followed by 6 months of velious then on to kittens on the moon and then PoP … only the most dedicated players would be able to level up any character to maximum while raiding competitively … much less having even 1 other alt at a substantial level. In that case, any person who dedicated themselves to playing a critical class for raid success at a fast tempo of expansion release (cleric, necro, mage, warrior, rogue) would be much more appreciated.

I remember during Luclin on live most of our raid force being sub-60.

[Snaggles]

The best thing a DPS fan can do is download an parser. Outside raids and a few select players in grind groups (who actually try) you would be surprised how bad people are.

If you are killing blue cons a mage is on par with 90% of monks and rogues with a boring water pet. Far higher I’d you remember to account for the burst potential and damage shield.

[silo32]

A 54 mage with phinny focus staff and spamming burnt wood staff 333 dd clicky.... Can out dps every class in a full xp grind group but maybe a geared epic rouge... If velk boots, GG Just saying

[Ripqozko]

Inb4 dsm and root rotting

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A 54 mage with phinny focus staff and spamming burnt wood staff 333 dd clicky.... Can out dps every class in a full xp grind group but maybe a geared epic rouge... If velk boots, GG Just saying

Not a level 60 mage spamming burnt newb staff

[silo32]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a level 60 mage spamming burnt newb staff

We're, talking your average kc/Seb/hol/velks pug all sub 60 just grinding XP like plebes. With a random ranger with swiftwind or a ragebringer. Not some 59 epic war in full SS.

Just random randos

Getting phinny staff and 54 water pet plus noob wood staff spamming naked full mana every pull is deepz

[enjchanter]

What about a 48 epic warrior

[silo32]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about a 48 epic warrior

Check m8

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A 54 mage with phinny focus staff and spamming burnt wood staff 333 dd clicky.... Can out dps every class in a full xp grind group but maybe a geared epic rouge... If velk boots, GG Just saying

Yeah but the tunnel geared enchanter brings that + everything else.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but the tunnel geared enchanter brings that + everything else.

Different flavors my dude. Not everyone wants to rock an enc and have to have people watch their pet for breaks. People are inherently lazy in this game. Mage for dps makes sense there. Still a solid ass class I’d take enc/mage with epic over cleric/enc depending on content a lot of times cleric just nukes anyway since enc is doing 95% of the work.