Great value items vs Overvalued items

[Castle2.0]

Sorry, I still don't understand, which item is: "only item in LGuk that appreciates in value over time"

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It no longer drops, very useful, and is irreplaceable, hence it always goes up in value over time. They sold for 50-60k back in the Teal/Green days. Now they are 150k+, soon to be 200k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Noselacri]

Mind that once Kunark (and Velious) release, it's only really all that useful for wizards and druids who can port back to the old world and manastone up to full mana. The item itself is only usable in the game's original zones, so if you're a class without ports, you'd only be able to benefit from it when you're back in the old world. Long story short, it's primarily a druid/wizard item. Classes that can't easily move back and forth between the old world and Kunark/Velious get very little out of the item unless you're deliberately camping something in LGuk or SolB or something like that.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most that play have certain items they get great value out of. When I talk to new players in EC I sometimes get asked what to purchase.

Which items do you find that are great values to purchase in EC? Which items are overvalued?

Here's what I typically recommend to new players on green so they use their hard earned plat wisely.

great value:

10 does sow pots (100p is a steal for these)
55HP rings (200-250p is super low for so many hitpoints
Hooded Black Cloak (1400-1700p for great back item for any class)

overvalued:

Golden Efreeti Boots (5-6k for 9int/wis -seems quite overvalued)



What are some more examples of items that have great value vs cost to new players? How about more overvalued items they should avoid?

Too much demand and the 9int/wis is crazy high considering. Not overvalued. JBoots are a much better value than sow pots over the medium and long run. 10 pp per sow click not economical unless you have pp to burn.

[Soothsayer]

Box of Abu-Kar is a great value item. It's only going to rise in price once people start leveling their Iksar monks and shit and need weight reduction. You can get 'em for ~3k to 4k right now, but I'm willing to bet they'll eventually go up to double that during Kunark. Definitely buy them now if you plan to get one.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Soothsayer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Box of Abu-Kar is a great value item. It's only going to rise in price once people start leveling their Iksar monks and shit and need weight reduction. You can get 'em for ~3k to 4k right now, but I'm willing to bet they'll eventually go up to double that during Kunark. Definitely buy them now if you plan to get one.

They will never go over 5k...people would just buy a tink bag.

[Noselacri]

Box of Abu is even worse than tinker bag, it weighs twice as much and has the same slots, size allowance and weight reduction. There's no conceivable reason why it would ever cost more than 3-4k when anyone can get as many tinker bags as they want for 5k each without even needing to find a seller.

[Soothsayer]

Originally Posted by Noselacri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Box of Abu is even worse than tinker bag, it weighs twice as much

It weighs 1 pound more. Is a tink bag really worth 1 - 2k more on account of that? Nah. Expect the price of boxes to go up to at least close to tinkerer bag prices.

[Noselacri]

For monks it matters quite a bit, and for anyone else, how close can the price of boxes really get to 5k before it makes no sense? 4k should be the absolute limit. It's not like anyone's gonna want to spend time looking for a buyer and then get a worse bag just to save, say, 200p.

[pivo]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to P99!

It no longer drops, very useful, and is irreplaceable, hence it always goes up in value over time. They sold for 50-60k back in the Teal/Green days. Now they are 150k+, soon to be 200k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks! If there is ever new server start, I will be ready for a camping race ;-)

[Castle2.0]

Mind that once Kunark (and Velious) release, it's only really all that useful for wizards and druids who can port back to the old world and manastone up to full mana. The item itself is only usable in the game's original zones, so if you're a class without ports, you'd only be able to benefit from it when you're back in the old world. Long story short, it's primarily a druid/wizard item. Classes that can't easily move back and forth between the old world and Kunark/Velious get very little out of the item unless you're deliberately camping something in LGuk or SolB or something like that.

Mostly true.

It's definitely a wiz/dru item primarily in Kunark/Velious. However, you can go level 1-55 in old world easily. Great item for necro. You have lure-like DD (lifetaps) that have better mana/dmg ratio than wizards due to manasstone+lifetap heal combo.

Manastone is mostly about efficiency and so it shines most when you're levelling (or a druid/wiz that can port old world). Old world mobs are typically weaker (lower ac/hp) and with Kunark/Velious gear there's a definite mismatch.

With the ZEM zones (and that may change) of paw and CT in place, I could see a caster levelling in old world with The Manastone.