Green 2.0 advice

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by socialist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody will ever even mention the XP penalty. Same goes for the knights, though they're so rare that it barely matters. The odds of having even two hybrids in a group are miniscule, and I don't think I saw three hybrids in one group through all of classic.

The only time I can remember there not being drama about a hybrid being in a party during the early days of the server, was when the hybrid was the one who actually made the group. And even then, there were a lot of shady comments made in tells about how to get rid of them. So my experience was vastly different.

[Videri]

People say PVP would help prevent players or groups from monopolizing spawns, but it would be worse. In people's imaginations, it's "I can kill the guy and then camp it myself," but what would really happen is you attack the guy and then 5 of his friends log in their pre-parked alts and force you to leave or die. It will just turn into an even more intense zergfest.

With pvp, the way to maximize your returns on a camp like that is to have a guild or cabal that takes turns camping it and reinforces each other to hold onto the camp. And you can say, "Well then we'll just make our own guild, with blackjack and hookers," but whichever guild loses 3 times in a row will see a bunch of members switch sides, and voila, one guild is waaaay bigger than the other. And they get all the pixels until the item is removed from the game. Or the other team completely dissolves and joins the winning team and waits their turn.

Ta-da! Right back where we started.

[arc]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“Competitive Sky” did not end up happening. The guilds quickly agreed on a weekly rotation. Also, it turned out nobody used Summon Corpse that much to advance in Plane of Sky. So the round-the-clock camping, the drama and rage, the petitioning, and the /list torture was all for nothing. the end

stir the shit, lick the spoon

delicious

[arc]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one did option A lol

even neckbeards value their own health to some extent

lol

[Darkone]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

List are flawed, just need to make it where if you get dc'd your instant kicked from list. Aka no account sharing.

You do realize that this would essentially make some people stay up and probably die in front of their computer just to get some imaginary item in a 20+ year old game.

Its better to have everyone that signs up to the list have a chance of winning the item on a random roll when it drops. Not going to be perfect because yeah it will probably be 400 people on the list at all times but its better than forcing people who have no lives to stay up until they probably die irl from lack of sleep (and when that does happen the entire p99 project will be shut down because of people dying from this terrible ruleset)

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People say PVP would help prevent players or groups from monopolizing spawns, but it would be worse. In people's imaginations, it's "I can kill the guy and then camp it myself," but what would really happen is you attack the guy and then 5 of his friends log in their pre-parked alts and force you to leave or die. It will just turn into an even more intense zergfest.

With pvp, the way to maximize your returns on a camp like that is to have a guild or cabal that takes turns camping it and reinforces each other to hold onto the camp. And you can say, "Well then we'll just make our own guild, with blackjack and hookers," but whichever guild loses 3 times in a row will see a bunch of members switch sides, and voila, one guild is waaaay bigger than the other. And they get all the pixels until the item is removed from the game. Or the other team completely dissolves and joins the winning team and waits their turn.

Ta-da! Right back where we started.

Yes, most normal posters know that the redders are full of shit when they claim PvP is good for community or server health. They just want griefing.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People say PVP would help prevent players or groups from monopolizing spawns, but it would be worse. In people's imaginations, it's "I can kill the guy and then camp it myself," but what would really happen is you attack the guy and then 5 of his friends log in their pre-parked alts and force you to leave or die. It will just turn into an even more intense zergfest.

With pvp, the way to maximize your returns on a camp like that is to have a guild or cabal that takes turns camping it and reinforces each other to hold onto the camp. And you can say, "Well then we'll just make our own guild, with blackjack and hookers," but whichever guild loses 3 times in a row will see a bunch of members switch sides, and voila, one guild is waaaay bigger than the other. And they get all the pixels until the item is removed from the game. Or the other team completely dissolves and joins the winning team and waits their turn.

Ta-da! Right back where we started.

PvP players aren't smart enough to have multiple thought trains at once, you should know that by now.

[drackgon]

Originally Posted by Natewest1987 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only time I can remember there not being drama about a hybrid being in a party during the early days of the server, was when the hybrid was the one who actually made the group. And even then, there were a lot of shady comments made in tells about how to get rid of them. So my experience was vastly different.

I should of said the same thing in reply to Socialist. Dude I was SK main, unless I formed the PuG/random made group I didnt get invited and was told that tons of times(PS ty crank gnome warrior earlier green who would defend 2 tank groups aka me as puller). And even then I was constantly asked how long do I plan on staying, so they could rep me ASAP. I had a ton of groups that Id be puller and or tank and the group leader would randomly invite a pally or ranger something. And low and behold group would fall apart right after because of crap XP. I even remember a time in Lguk we owned all of named camps exe/Cav/etc camps in that hall for hours, . Moment they repped a dps with a ranger. 2 others screamed at group leader for it and also left.

I am thinking socialist leveled his hybrid at like a snail pace, bc in 20s-40s it was brutal as an Hybrid. We were treated like ass.

[whitebandit]

Does anyone remember the "Fabled" versions of Nameds on Live? --- what if there was a 1 in 10k chance that Assassin would spawn as "Fabled Assassin" and dropped the guise...

[Coridan]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I should of said the same thing in reply to Socialist. Dude I was SK main, unless I formed the PuG/random made group I didnt get invited and was told that tons of times(PS ty crank gnome warrior earlier green who would defend 2 tank groups aka me as puller). And even then I was constantly asked how long do I plan on staying, so they could rep me ASAP. I had a ton of groups that Id be puller and or tank and the group leader would randomly invite a pally or ranger something. And low and behold group would fall apart right after because of crap XP. I even remember a time in Lguk we owned all of named camps exe/Cav/etc camps in that hall for hours, . Moment they repped a dps with a ranger. 2 others screamed at group leader for it and also left.

I am thinking socialist leveled his hybrid at like a snail pace, bc in 20s-40s it was brutal as an Hybrid. We were treated like ass.

I had the opposite experience. I was only refused a group twice on my SK for being an SK. Most of the time I would log on and get tells from all over asking me to join them because tanks were so rare. Maybe I just had a better reputation than you? Grouping is just networking.